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|Oct-29-14|| ||notyetagm: Gelfand vs Jobava, 2014|
Eags! Losing a White game in 30 moves. What a *disastrous* tournament for Gelfand: <+0 =4 -4>.
Does anyone know if Gelfand is sick or something?
|Oct-29-14|| ||john barleycorn: Jobava learnt it the hard way at the ACP 2014
W So vs Jobava, 2014
Gelfand missed 5.Kf1 (Wesley So's inspiration)
What else is wrong with Gelfand? Ask <Alexandra "Cassandra" Thess>
|Oct-29-14|| ||JosepCmd: <notyetagm: Does anyone know if Gelfand is sick or something>|
I think Gelfand is out of fuel now. He is playing second 11-tour robin tournament without a rest period. Senility is very bad.
|Oct-29-14|| ||chancho: When you and I look at a chessboard, you see this:
Nowadays, when Boris Gelfand looks at a chessboard, he see this:
Yes, the poor guy needs a rest.
|Oct-29-14|| ||SirRuthless: Someone should check Jobava's shoes before and after the next round.|
|Oct-29-14|| ||luzhin: 30...Bxc4! is a brutal conclusion. Obviously if 31.Bxc4 Re1+ 32.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 33.Kc2 Ne3+ wins the Queen. Even prettier is 31.Rd2 Bxb3 32.axb3 Re1+ 33.Nxe1 Qxe1+ 34.Rd1 Qxd1+ 35.Kxd1 Ne3+ and Black ends up with two knights against one!|
|Oct-29-14|| ||iking: Gandalf needsrest|
|Oct-29-14|| ||Garech: Great play from Jobava; he has an unorthodox style. I respect players who eschew the mainlines in favour of thier own stuff. Kudos!|
|Oct-29-14|| ||paavoh: All this talk about Jobava being a cheater is pure, unadulterated nonsense. He is one of the most imaginative players around, who is not shying away from playing moves with the !? or ?! labels. The GMs just are not used to facing such opponents, and Gelfand is in bad form, in addition.|
|Oct-29-14|| ||chessastronomy: 8th round game in which Israeli GM Gelfand gets blasted by Jobava in a brief Queen´s Indian Game.
Gelfand goes for complications after taking "poisoned pawn on g7" 9. Q:g7, 9. Qg5 which would have maintaned white´s initiative without complications.
Boris´ position begins to collapse with 21.Qf1 ?! better were 21. Qc3 or Kb1, or Rf1, or Rd1 (Fritz 8 analysis).
Jobava leads this tourney with five (5) points together with Andreikin and Nakamura.
Comments by the writer of Chess and Astronomy and If you like Monopoly You´ll Love Chess !!! Alonso Acuña Barba|
|Oct-29-14|| ||Ulhumbrus: If the attack 8 Qg4 does not win a pawn on g7 owing to the counter-attack ...Rg8 on White's own g2 pawn this suggests 8 Ngf3|
|Oct-29-14|| ||HeMateMe: where'd they did up this opening--Blackburne v. Andersson?|
|Oct-29-14|| ||SirRuthless: <paavoh> He has been caught cheating before. Once a cheat, always a cheat.|
|Oct-29-14|| ||Pulo y Gata: And cheaters must die. - SirRuthless|
|Oct-29-14|| ||Check It Out: <SR> Do you have an article link you can post that deals with the allegation of Jobava cheating? thanks.|
|Oct-30-14|| ||SirRuthless: The link is in the main tournament thread a page or two back. Someone else posted it earlier.|
|Oct-30-14|| ||Sokrates: Very dynamic and imaginative play by Jobava. Reminds me a bit of Keres in his young days. The chess-world needs players like him to inject energy in the game. I feel sorry for Gelfand, though. Such a triumph in the previous tournament and now this.|
|Oct-30-14|| ||tivrfoa: puzzle: 30. black to play|
|Oct-30-14|| ||cro777: <john barleycorn: Jobava learnt it the hard way at the ACP 2014. Gelfand missed 5.Kf1 (Wesley So's inspiration)> |
Position after 4....Bb4+
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Gelfand probably thought that Jobava had prepared a new idea against 5.Kf1 and decided to use a different approach: 5.Bd2 Bxd2+ 6.Nxd2 d6 7.f4, building a strong pawn center (a very rare variation).
"Jobava got squashed against So earlier this year with 5.Kf1, so surely he had a new idea against it, but Gelfand decided to use another variation all together." (Chessbase.com)
|Oct-30-14|| ||john barleycorn: <cro777> I guess Gelfand played the "most natural" move 5.Bd2 which Jobava knew as well.|
D Bunzmann vs Oral, 1998
Also compare the Crakow variant in the Giuoco piano. Kf1 has a few benefits, imo.
|Oct-30-14|| ||cro777: Recently, 5.Bd2 is the most popular move. Earlier, the main line was 5.Nc3. Most recently, at the German Chess League (Schachbundesliga, October 19, 2014), 5.Kf1 was again successfully tried. In practice, 5.Kf1 scores well (69%).|
|Oct-30-14|| ||activechess55: If black is playing for a win against d4, this is a nice opening from Jobava, something similar to queens Indian defense. Gelfand’s four pawn attack seem to be inappropriate try. If white plays 7. f3 instead of f4, he might be able to hold the centre better.|
|Oct-31-14|| ||BadKnight: Once I was very impressed by this game.
Gelfand vs Jobava, 2011
I half-remembered the queen sac, forgot that it was played against jobava.
|Nov-01-14|| ||Sokrates: Thanks for the reference <BadKnight>. What a fantastic game by Gelfand - a model example of how to combine bishops and knights with a pawn attack. Also shows the greatness of GM Gelfand, who has been in the top twenty for decades now.|
|Nov-08-14|| ||FSR: According to <Chess Evolution>, instead of 8.Qg4,|
"White is just better after an easy move like 8.Ngf3 Ne7 9.O-O O-O and now White has a lot of different options, but maybe a solid move like 10.Qc2 should clearly give White some advantage. Rae1 is coming next." http://www.chessgames.com/ce_sample...
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