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Magnus Carlsen vs Viswanathan Anand
"Ritz Carlsen" (game of the day Jan-29-2015)
Carlsen - Anand World Championship Match (2014), Sochi RUS, rd 11, Nov-23
Spanish Game: Berlin Defense. l'Hermet Variation Berlin Wall Defense (C67)  ·  1-0


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Nov-29-14  RookFile: Carlsen is a practical player, a modern day Reshevsky. The type of player who can beat him is the one who is a researcher, who is very strong in the openings. A modern day Botvinnik, I guess.
Nov-29-14  Jambow: I see many of the greats attributes in both of them. In Carlsen I see Capablanca, Karpov and Fischer. In Caruana I see Capablanca and maybe perhaps Botvinnik. Interesting we are going back to yesteryear for comparisons.

Of course they bring their own unique flavor to the board and Carlsen has done things in end games nobody before him seemed to be able to do.

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  HeMateMe: We need Rex! Did anyone say "Non-title match, MC v. Fabio, in St. Louis?" I thought I heard it...
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  Domdaniel: <Jambow> -- <Interesting we are going back to yesteryear for comparisons. > Uh, where else would you go? The future?
Nov-29-14  Absentee: <Domdaniel: <Jambow> -- <Interesting we are going back to yesteryear for comparisons. > Uh, where else would you go? The future?>

Why not? Comparisons to the future would be impossible to disprove. You would win every argument.

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  Domdaniel: <Absentee> At least until the future arrives. As it tends to do, even if in the wrong order.
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  thegoodanarchist: Was 27...Rb4 hubris on the part of Anand? Doesn't seem to be his style, or even his nature.

But then, how to explain stopping on b4 when you could stop on b3???

Dec-31-14  1 2 3 4: I don't understand Anand, why would he let 8. Qxd8 happen?
Jan-25-15  GoldenBird: <1 2 3 4> After 8. Qxd8+ Kxd8 we reach a position that is very drawish. Despite black's king in the center black has an unopposed light square bishop and f5 square for his knight. In fact, almost all GM's who play the berlin allow 8.Qxd8+
Jan-29-15  Everett: One of two missed opportunities for Anand with the Berlin. Maybe next time ;-)
Jan-29-15  classic25: I love Smyslov and Levenfish's book on Rook Endings. You talk to players today and they've never heard of it. It's one of the best chess books ever written. A study of it would take any class player up a notch

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  maxi: <thegoodanarchist> I was watching the game when Anand played 27...Rb4. I wrote the quip that perhaps Anand was going to play 27...Rb3 but dropped the Rook. Actually I felt quite depressed. I liked him and was rooting for him. I knew he was going to lose. Why a player like him make blunders of this type? It seemed to me the psychological impact on him of making a blunder of this magnitude was going to be crushing.
Jan-29-15  RookFile: Depends on how you look at it. Maybe losing has freed Anand. He had his time as champ; he lost - now he's free to enjoy life. As they say, they can't take the title of "ex-champ" away from you.
Jan-30-15  goodevans: <maxi: ... Why a player like him make blunders of this type?>

I find it so tiresome that so many cry <BLUNDER> at every mistake. <27...Rb4> was not a blunder but a deliberate plan that didn't work out.

A "blunder" is a mistake of massive oversight or complete stupidity that has no redeeming features. In contrast, Anand instigates a deliberate plan to sac the exchange in the hope that his Q-side pawns might gain him the advantage he needed for the win (remember, a draw was no longer good enough at this stage in the match). What would you have him do, just sit there and let Carlsen just seal up the position?

His plan was flawed but that's no reason for insulting him by screaming "blunder".

Jan-30-15  Everett: <goodevans> I see your point. It was a misevaluation of the position to occur a few moves down the line, not really a massive oversight.

And thank you once again for discussing context, a point lost on so many here.

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  maxi: Goodevans, you are assuming that he did not miss the square b4 was under attack. That is assuming a lot. Anyway, he gives away an exchange while allowing white to attack in the center with rooks. On the other hand, he can place a rook in the active square b3 and quickly activate the other a8 rook taking the b column. He takes the initiative.

look, I just don't see any pressure coming from the line he chose.

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  maxi: True enough, RookFile. He also has a lot of money he can use to make life interesting and enjoyable, given the time.
Feb-04-15  Everett: <maxi: Goodevans, you are assuming that he did not miss the square b4 was under attack. That is assuming a lot.>

Hmmm? It was attacked <twice>. No, he didn't miss that. He missed the activity of White would prevent him from making his pawns count on the Q-side.

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  maxi: <Everett> I have to admit Carlsen's regrouping was very efficient.
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  whiteshark: <Learn from the Legendary Magnus Carlsen - <a lecture by GM Yasser Seirawan>>
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  thegoodanarchist: Love the pun!
Aug-12-15  QueensideCastler: From move 33 ` Adding the better cooperation of the rook with the bishops, many Soviet theoreticians believed that, in active positions, rook and two bishops outperform two rooks and a knight

Not in this position.

Jan-13-16  abdwap: I love Smyslov and Levenfish's book on Rook Endings. You talk to players today and they've never heard of it. It's one of the best chess books ever written. A study of it would take any class player up a notch

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