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|Mar-09-15|| ||lentil: It's not even easy.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||Once: Well, um, yes. 11...Qf6??? A slip of the fingers? A momentary bout of insanity? Inebriation?|
To his credit white finishes off crisply. He doesn't get distracted by the bizarre antics on the other side of the board. He just develops and gets his pieces into the action.
The finish, when it came, looked like a mercy killing.
|Mar-09-15|| ||jedibishop: 1.Qd8+ Ne8 2.Qxc7! Nxc7! 3.Bd8!! |
|Mar-09-15|| ||offramp: <Phony Benoni> was clearly speaking metaphorically. Like saying that someone's clothing was "right out of the 1950s". |
He is making a humorous attempt to make this position an appropriate position for today, Fischer's birthday. Fischer is Player of the Day, Fischer vs J Sherwin, 1957 is GoTD and Fischer is the focus of the quote of the day.
<Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess> was published, I think, in 1972. It could hardly have contained a position from 2005!
Wake up, fellas!
|Mar-09-15|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: White is up a queen and can win in many ways. Fastest is 17.Qd8+ or 17.Qe8+ (the traditional Monday queen sac), both mating in two moves from the diagram.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: Apparently I can't count material on Mondays.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||solver43: Black's only escape square is covered by the white bishop on c2. Therefore, Qe8 Nxe8 Rxe8#|
|Mar-09-15|| ||squlpt: Was 11... Qf6!! a novelty?|
|Mar-09-15|| ||whiteshark: Oh, how I'm missing a day between Sunday and Monday.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||paavoh: I went with the more materialistic, less flashy Qd8 camp. Perhaps this was a test for personality traits as well.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||Penguincw: My very first instinct was to give a bishop sac, but then I realized it was Monday. Black doesn't have a queen, so white can give up there's in exchange for the king. Or simply Qd8+ Ne8 and mate.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||TheaN: Monday 9 March 2015 <17.?>|
<17.Qd8+ Ne8 18.Rxe8# 1-0>?
For the first time in history even a Monday position surprises me. Not worth of Qe8+, and I actually missed white is up the queen, instead of truly sacrificing her.
<agb: White is slightly ahead in material (Q+B).
Black is probably threatening to provoke a deadly jaw-dislocating yawn.>
I laughed hard at both.
|Mar-09-15|| ||TheaN: What the heck was up with 11....Qf6? I enjoy speculative pieces sacrificing, but that pushes it. It's basically a helpmate in 7. Lets see how quick Stockfish finds a mate after 11....Qf6 :).|
|Mar-09-15|| ||TheaN: After 7 minutes it was still on only +14, but I'll take it nonetheless.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||Oxspawn: I thought the position must be a mistake and that black had a queen on c6 - but, so long as you choose 17 Qe8, it makes no difference to the outcome.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||Phony Benoni: <Addel Irada> Looking at Martin's other games, I suspect that "win" over a Master -- which has no moves attached -- was a forfeit. I would put his rating in general below 1000.|
Even so, 11...Qf6 is so awful (How awful is it? It's so awful that it couldn't be an example in <How Not To Play Chess>.) that I normally would put it down as a score error. Thing is, as the game goes, I can't find an reasonable substitute.
Normally, I would call for this game to be removed from the database, but now that it's enshrined in my Puzzle collections I suppose it has to stay.
|Mar-09-15|| ||Oxspawn: Here is a theory. Black went for his coffee cup but on the way touched the queen so had to move it. He realised that 11. Qe7 was a terrible move, but had no other legal move that did not lead to the queen being taken. Moving to g5 or h4 looks like a complete oversight – “I didn’t know your horsey thing could move like that”, so Qf6 was an act of bravado – “good heavens, he must being seeing something I can’t see.” A bluff dressed up as a blunder on the back of a clumsy gesture (in short, a “clumber”.) Any idea how long it took white to play 12. exf6?|
|Mar-09-15|| ||dfcx: I went for 17.Qe8, then started counting and found white was up a queen and bishop, and next found Qd8.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||gawain: An odd one. I admit that I did not notice that white could force the mate with the queen-preserving Qd8+ as well as with Qe8+. That is kind of nifty.|
But the first thing I noticed was that W was up a queen. That certainly takes all of the urgency out of finding that special winning combination!
|Mar-09-15|| ||Oxspawn: "don't choose Qe8", I meant. Gadzooks!|
|Mar-09-15|| ||TheTamale: The real challenge of this puzzle is envisioning how Black could fall prey to a back rank mate after only 16 moves. Then you play the game over, and the real question is "What took so long?"|
|Mar-09-15|| ||Bubo bubo: White is already a whole queen (!) up, and he mates in two with 17.Qd8+ Ne8 18.Qxe8#/Rxe8# or 17.Qe8+ Nxe8 18.Rxe8#.|
|Mar-09-15|| ||Autoreparaturwerkbau: Black's position is so bad that i failed to see that black is not only a queen up, but also a minor piece (a bishop) up. |
Quite a feat for mere 16 moves.
|Mar-09-15|| ||AvidChessMan: I also quickly noticed the missing black queen. I'd say the challenging part of this puzzle is trying to figure out 11...Qf6. Was Victor Alonso Martin playing this game blind???|
|Mar-09-15|| ||BOSTER: Maybe the < f6> square on the chessboard is not the best to <give up> the queen, but some players like it.
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Black to play.
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