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Boris Gelfand vs Peter Svidler
FIDE Grand Prix Khanty-Mansiysk (2015), Khanty-Mansiysk RUS, rd 8, May-22
Gruenfeld Defense: Russian. Hungarian Variation (D97)  ·  1-0
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May-22-15
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  Penguincw: I'm confused. The results says white is winning, but ChessBase (http://en.chessbase.com/post/khanty...) says that "However Svidler played better than Gelfand, who was unable to use all of his opportunities, and he salvaged a draw."

The <cg> computer says the position is equal, while the chess24 says the eval is 2.72, but playing out the top line, it eventually leads to 0.00

In other words: can someone show me the win?

May-22-15  jeagle: Just analyzed the end position with help from Stockfish. The Chess24 engine evaluation is because white has to give up the bishop for a pawn to keep on playing.

It does seem like Svidler might have thrown in the towel a little to early. The main idea behind the black defense is pretty straightforward to grasp, by studying the mainline by Stockfish. Seems like black can force the pawn for bishop trade, and hold the position in the following Rook vs Rook/Bishop endgame. Another interesting line ends in a Bishop vs Bishop+2 pawns end game, which also looks like a possible draw.

Imho Svidler should probably have played on a few moves to see what Gelfand planned - doesn't seem straightforward for either side.

May-22-15  HowDoesTheHorsieMove: Stockfish with tablebases says it's won, but it's far too deep for me to understand, much less explain. Svidler probably just didn't want to try.
May-22-15  CountryGirl: I thought Gelfand played resourcefully to get and preserve that passed a-pawn. As other commenters observe, Svidler might have played on a bit(?). After all, even a giant like Gelfand can make a mistake. Will have to examine this with more care since it's not at all obvious to me...
May-23-15  Ulhumbrus: At one point the grandmaster commentators may have suggested that the ending might be drawn but not at all easy for Black to defend.

If White plays with an extra pawn on the queen side and other things are equal ( eg Black can't make his king side pawn majority count and Black's king can't keep White's king out) one pawn is enough to win the game.

May-23-15  siggemannen: 18. Ne4 is a nice move. If black takes, white has Ng5 which threatens Qxf7+ and Nxe6 attacking g7 and Qc7 at the same time
Jan-12-16  chicandoful: Gelfand is master of strategy
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