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| Jan-01-17 | | spyron: What happens after 36...Bf4? |
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| Jan-01-17 | | drollere: i am in patzer league, but the rook sac at 21. Rxf7 followed by Qh7+ leaped out after about 10 seconds of evaluation. my divergence was 26. Bb6+ winning the Q and KN pawn, with the black K out in the open and the black R's blocked by the center pawns. |
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| Jan-01-17 | | YouRang: Following this game with the computer, I see that white had a quicker way to win. After <25...Kxe4>
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White has <26.c4!>
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The Pc4 is stopping the king from escaping back to d5 and c6, but why can't black just take it: <26...bxc4>?
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Because now white has <27.Bg1+!>, and now "escaping" via <27...Kd5> actually runs into an ambush: <28.Qf7+ Kc6 29.Qxf4#!>
click for larger view Black's best choice after <26.c4> was <26...Kd3>, but this looks awful, for black, and indeed it is. |
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| Jan-01-17 | | RandomVisitor: After 22.Rxf7
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<+4.34/40 22...Kxf7 23.Qh7+ Ke6 24.exd5+ Bxd5> 25.Bxg6 Bxg2+ 26.Kxg2 d5 27.Qf7+ Kd6 28.Qxe8 Bh4 29.Rg1 Qxe8 30.Bxe8 Rh7 31.Kf1 d4 32.Bd2 Bf6 33.Rg2 e4 34.Be1 Rh3 35.Bg6 Rf3+ 36.Ke2 Be5 37.Rg4 Rh3 38.Bxe4 Rxh2+ 39.Bg2 Ke6 40.Kd3 Bf4 41.Bf2 Be5 42.Bg1 Rh6 43.Rg8 Kf5 44.Bf2 Rh2 45.Bxd4 Kf6 46.Rf8+ Ke6 47.Re8+ Kf7 48.Rxe5 Rxg2 49.Re3 Rh2 50.b3 Rg2 51.c3 Ra2 52.Rf3+ Ke8 |
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| Jan-01-17 | | YouRang: <spyron: What happens after 36...Bf4?>
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37.Qd3+! with 38.Qxg6+ next. |
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Jan-01-17
 | | maxi: <YouRang: Following this game with the computer, I see that white had a quicker way to win. After 25...Kxe4 White has 26.c4!> Yes, simple and effective. It is the kind of move that is almost impossible for a human to find, and yet a computer can find it in less than a second. Hmmm. |
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| Jan-01-17 | | ChessHigherCat: <maxi: <YouRang: Following this game with the computer, I see that white had a quicker way to win. After 25...Kxe4 White has 26.c4!> It is the kind of move that is almost impossible for a human to find, and yet a computer can find it in less than a second.>
It is almost superhumanly devious to play a pawn with the intention of forcing the king to capture it and then to leave the square to free the space for your queen. |
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Jan-01-17
 | | scormus: <YouRang> Excellent, insightful analysis. A masterclass :) |
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| Jan-01-17 | | Muttley101: Jan did an excellent video on this game, it's on youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nb... |
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| Jan-01-17 | | King.Arthur.Brazil: I answered correctly most the beginning failed on 27.Sd2...Se3+ and Qb3. I missed 31.Qd3 and the final 32.Se1. My headaches don't help much. |
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| Jan-01-17 | | stst: Quite many choices for 1st game of the New Year!
Essentially lock up the Black K within the e6-g8 corner.
Cite only one & see if it strikes what Wei picked:
22.Rxf7 KxR (others led to mate sooner)
23.Qh7+ Ke6 (also if K stays on f file, Rf1 will mate sooner)
24.Rf1 Bf6
25.Qxg6 Rg8
26.exd5 Bxd5
27.Qf5+ Ke7
28.Qxf6+ Ke8
29.Bg6+ Bf7
30.BxB+ Kf8
31.Bh6+ Rg7
32.BxR#
as said, there're still other possibilities...let see |
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| Jan-01-17 | | stst: Oh the Black K tries to flee the other side...
But after 25.Be4... thought a good move to lure the KxB, very curious why White did not capitalize to dis+ with 26.Bb6 (R+) to snatch the Black Q....Agreed with others that White should have won much quicker (& more elegantly!!) |
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| Jan-01-17 | | mel gibson: Easiest insane puzzle I've seen -
I saw the move in under 1 second.
the computer DR4 64 bit says:
22. Rxf7 (22. Rxf7 (♖f1xf7 ♔g8xf7 ♕h3-h7+ ♔f7-e6 e4xd5+
♗b7xd5 ♗d3xg6 ♗d5xg2+ ♔h1xg2 d6-d5 ♕h7-f7+ ♔e6-d6 ♕f7xe8 ♗e7-h4 ♕e8xd8
♖d7xd8 ♖e1-g1 ♖d8-h8 c2-c3 ♔d6-e6 ♔g2-f1 ♗h4-e7 ♖g1-g2 a6-a5 ♔f1-e2 b5-b4
c3xb4 a5xb4 a3-a4 ♗e7-d8 b2-b3) +3.22/18 157)
score +3.22 depth 18 |
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| Jan-01-17 | | ChessHigherCat: <stst: very curious why White did not capitalize to dis+ with 26.Bb6 (R+) to snatch the Black Q....>
26. Bb6 (R+), Kf4??? 27. Qb3 threatening mate with Qf3, with the Q en prise and the King naked among the wolves, but what's the follow-up if black plays 26...Kf5 instead? |
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| Jan-01-17 | | morfishine: <mel gibson: Easiest insane puzzle I've seen - I saw the move in under 1 second> LMAO, Pleeeez, for all of us to know, just what is "under 1 second"???? Were you using a stopwatch? Perhaps a sundial?
LOL
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Jan-01-17
 | | perfidious: <morf>, the claims which have always destroyed me are those when someone posts: <I got it in a nanosecond!> |
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| Jan-01-17 | | ChessHigherCat: Why ye bruisin' the baptist? |
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| Jan-01-17 | | ChessHigherCat: I got Rxf7 in a couple seconds (who wouldn't after all the puzzles with the exact same theme?) but that hardly counts as solving the puzzle immediately. |
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| Jan-02-17 | | PhilFeeley: Saw this live. Great game. |
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| Jan-02-17 | | mel gibson: < morfishine: <mel gibson: Easiest insane puzzle I've seen - I saw the move in under 1 second> LMAO, Pleeeez, for all of us to know, just what is "under 1 second"???? Were you using a stopwatch? Perhaps a sundial?
LOL
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Well unlike other puzzles where I look at them for up to 5 minutes -
I saw the first move instantly. |
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| Mar-30-17 | | Jeweller: Chess friends. Chess engines analyze this game here:
http://proint.narod.ru/jeweller/jew... |
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| Mar-03-18 | | EGarrett: This is a great game, but it's nowhere near the game of the decade. That's easily Anand's game against Aronian at Tata Steel 2013. Hang 2 pieces and an exchange, all of which are poisoned, and destroy a 2800 player in a miniature. With black. Yeah. |
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| Sep-02-19 | | Chesgambit: 2 Immortal chess games |
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| Sep-06-19 | | Chesgambit: hard chess puzzle because look like black can escape but after you see it 25. Be4! white mates (solved 25 reply) |
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| Jul-04-23 | | generror: The black king went for a long but not very leisurely stroll :) Truly amazing that White was down a rook and a bishop and still managed to chase the king across the whole board, while the other black pieces can only watch. Awesome game! |
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