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|Jul-24-16|| ||morfishine: <Sneaky> One more "AMAZING" and I'm going to throw up|
|Jul-24-16|| ||perfidious: <Geoff> Here in the States, that approach would get your friend sacked in one big hurry, what with all the private, for-profit prisons here. That would be $$$ out of their pockets.|
<morf> The word to which you refer is overworked in real life to the point where I read it and shut down; it is odds-on that the adjective is used to describe someone or something worthy of mention, but far from being as remarkable as all that.
|Jul-24-16|| ||morfishine: <perfidious> LOL I'm challenging people to use other words, like outstanding, incredible, dazzling, marvelous or stunning. Instead all we hear is "My husband is just so amazing" or "My wife is so amazing" or "The concert was soooo amazing" or "That recipe you gave me was amazing" or "The trip was soo amazing" or blahblahblahblahblahblahblahblah amazing this or amazing that|
I throw down the gauntlet: use any applicable adjective except amazing
I think this would refresh the verbage
|Jul-24-16|| ||Jack Kerouac: Must be Sunday.
Now for Chess religion..
|Jul-24-16|| ||sfm: Amazing.|
|Jul-24-16|| ||5hrsolver: And this is just one game in a simultaneous exhibition.|
|Jul-24-16|| ||RKnight: <devere: Jimfromprovidence: How does it work out for white after 26 Rh1 Qg5, below, seeing 27...Rxd6?
In that case I think that White has to win slowly with 27.Qd3 Nf6 28.d7 and Black's position looks hopeless.>|
Indeed. If black tries to counterattack with 28...Qxg2, then 29. Rxh5+ (the rook is immune) Kg8, the Queen sac 30. Qh7+ leads to a forced mate. 30...Nxh7, 31 Bxh7+ Kh8, 32. Bf5+ Kg8, 33. Be6+ Rf7, 34. Re8+ etc. Mighty Tal probably saw this continuation too.
|Jul-24-16|| ||playground player: Tal's move, Rh1, I never would've thought of, not it I had all week to ponder it. Just wonderful, and it made me laugh out loud in admiration.|
|Jul-24-16|| ||saffuna: Various players have said that in post mortems Tal would rattle off one wild sacrificial variation after another, just as wild as Rh1 here.|
Tal knew most of these were unsound, but what matters is that he saw them at all, and considered them.
|Jul-24-16|| ||Marmot PFL: 26 Rh1 was the first move I considered, diverting the queen from attacking f2 to allow 27 Qe4 Nf6 28 Qg6 Rg8, but I didn't see the line through to the final queen sac.|
|Jul-24-16|| ||Virgil A: Looked at Rh1 but could not see the end of it.
That's the Genius Tal.
|Jul-24-16|| ||Marmot PFL: To find this combo in a multi-games simul is very impressive.|
|Jul-24-16|| ||et1: Is Kirjatsky misspelled ? it is very hard to find anything about the name in Google-but there is someone called Kirjatskih in facebook.. weird.|
|Jul-24-16|| ||BOSTER: What'll be if 29. d6-d7?|
|Jul-24-16|| ||drollere: analysis starts with a defensive audit of white's position, since black is down a pawn but has several specific or potential threats: cxd6 or Rxd6, Qxe7+ if the d6 pawn is advanced, Qxf2+ if the white queen moves (for example to d3, threatening Qh7#), Nh2+ and f3+, etc.; the K is tied to f2 and f1 is not a flight square due to Nh2+ winning the Q.|
Rd7 or Rxc7 seem eventually to trade rooks and lose both pawns; g3 seems attractive to attack the Q but is met by:
26. g3 fxg3
27. Qe4 Rxf2+
28. Kd1 Rxd6+
29. Kc1 Nf6
so after a reasonable amount of time i was still unable to solve this position.
|Jul-24-16|| ||agb2002: White has a bishop and a pawn for a knight.
Black threatens Rxd6.
The first idea that comes to mind is 26.Qe4 (26.Qd3 Qxf2+ 27.Kd1 Rxd6 - +; 26.Qxf4 Rxf4 27.Re8+ Rf8 - +):
A) 26... Qxf2+ 27.Kd1
A.1) 27... Rxd6+ 28.Kc1
A.1.a) 28... Nf6 29.Qg6 Rg8 30.Bb3 seems to win decisive material. The alternative 30.Rh1 looks more complex, for example 30... Qc5 31.b4 Qd5 32.Be4 Qxe4 (32... Nxe4 33.Rxh5+ Qxh5 34.Qxh5+ Rh6 35.Qe5 and 36.Rxc7 + - [Q vs R+N]) 33.Rxh5+ Nxh5 34.Qxe4 as in the previous subline.
A.1.b) 28... Rh6 29.Re8 Qc5 (29... Rg8 30.Rxg8+ Kxg8 31.Qe8#; 29... Kg8 30.Rxf8+ Kxf8 31.Qe8#) 30.Qxf4 Rhf6 (or 30... Nf6) 31.Qxc7 looks good for White.
A.2) 27... Nf6 28.Qg6 Rg8 29.Qxf6 Qxc2+ (29... gxf6 30.Rh8#) 30.Kxc2 gxf6 31.d7 looks winning. For example, 31... Kg8 32.Re8 Kf7 33.R1e7+ Kg6 34.Rxd8 Rxd8 35.Re8 wins.
B) 26... Nf6 27.Qg6 Rg8 28.dxc7 wins a second pawn.
|Jul-24-16|| ||agb2002: I missed the defense 29... Qg3 in my line A.1.a, when after 30.Qxg3 fxg3 31.Rxc7 White has a slight edge.|
|Jul-24-16|| ||agb2002: <morfishine:
I throw down the gauntlet: use any applicable adjective except ...>
You can also try James Cameron's approach when commenting on Titanic ("I just think we should give a big round of applause for the people who had the huevos to make this movie. What the hell were they thinking?") and resort to another language for that appropriate adjective. Or noun.
|Jul-24-16|| ||Patriot: I thought about 26.Rh1 Qxh1 27.Qe4 f3+ 28.gxf3 Qxf3+ 29.Qxf3 Rxf3 30.Kxf3 Rxd6 31.Rxc7 and I think white is better.|
And I saw that 26.Rh1 Qxh1 27.Qe4 Nf6 28.Qg6 looked good but didn't really consider what would happen on 28...Rg8. It's interesting that 29.Qxf6 Rxd6 seems wrong here and looks losing to me. But 30.dxc7 on the other hand...
I couldn't decide which was best or if black kills off white after 26.Qe4. 26...Qxf2+ 27.Kd1 Ne3+ 28.R1xe3 Rxd6+ 29.Kc1 Qd2+ 30.Kb1 and white escapes I think.
|Jul-24-16|| ||Patriot: Sorry <morf>, for using the word 'amazing'...LOL. I didn't read your post until after I posted.|
I made some pretty big mistakes in my analysis. In the first line, 30...Rxd6?? 31.Re8#. In the second paragraph, 29...Rxd6 still loses for black because of 30.Qf5. And lastly... 29.Kc1?? Qxe3+ wins. Correct there is 29.Bc3.
|Jul-24-16|| ||Jimfromprovidence: jimfromprovidence: How does it work out for white after 26 Rh1 Qg5, below, seeing 27...Rxd6?> |
<devere><RKnight><In that case I think that White has to win slowly with 27.Qd3 Nf6 28.d7 and Black's position looks hopeless.>
Also take a look at 27 Qh3!? in this line.
click for larger view
There are many threats; 28 Qxh5+ and 28 dxc7 are two of them.
|Jul-24-16|| ||whiteshark: I found this young Tal picture quite amusing: http://www.thechessworld.com/pgngam...|
|Jul-24-16|| ||moronovich: <whiteshark: I found this young Tal picture quite amusing: http://www.thechessworld.com/pgngam...|
Thanks <whiteshark> ! Yes,very amusing.
|Jul-24-16|| ||j4jishnu: I wish Kasparov played against such brilliant attack. Mindboggling and insane Tal, as always.|
|Jul-25-16|| ||Moszkowski012273: 22.d5... is quite odd. Nothing wrong with the stronger 22.Qd3... followed by a rook lift. Amazing game though.|
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