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Veselin Topalov vs Ding Liren
Sinquefield Cup (2016), Saint Louis, MO USA, rd 5, Aug-09
Spanish Game: Closed Variations. Smyslov-Breyer-Zaitsev Hybrid (C93)  ·  1-0
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Aug-09-16
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  An Englishman: Good Afternoon: And there's g3 threatening Rc5X and h4X.
Aug-09-16
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  botvinnik64: Some one about to get "dinged!"
Aug-09-16  rhinox12: Rh2!-Bxh3
Aug-09-16  Virgil A: Ding is low on time
Aug-09-16  Virgil A: White squeezed a win!
Aug-09-16
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  PawnSac: Wow.. a topsy turvy game but a well deserved win
Aug-09-16
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  whiteshark: Sinquefield Cup has a sole leader
Aug-09-16
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  PawnSac: TY CG for the game display
Aug-09-16
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  beenthere240: As I had hoped, Topa abandoned the a pawn and created back row mating threats a la Carlsen. An earlier h5 would have helped.
Aug-09-16
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  TheFocus: Drat! I left before the win happened.

Good for Topalov!!

Aug-09-16  activechess55: Tip top ding dong !
Aug-10-16
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  HeMateMe: mate in 3. Topa in top form.
Aug-10-16
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  Sokrates: Much has gone south for Topalov of late, so congrats to him for this hard fought victory. Around the moves 50 I left the game and thought it would be difficult to squeeze a win out of it, but he managed to do it.
Aug-10-16
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  WorstPlayerEver: Ding defended very well until 57... Bf1.

What did we learn today? The key to win such a game lies in making useful piece exchanges so that the pawn majority gets more significant. For example: 36. Qa6 Ba6 37. Re8

So where did Topi miss the clear win? I'd say 42. R8c7 Rc7 (or 42... Rf6 43. R3c6).

Aug-10-16  Ulhumbrus: Instead of 12...h6, 12..Qe7 clears the square d8 for Black's queen's knight.
Aug-10-16  Calar: What's the reason behind 16...b4? Whatever compensation Black was supposed to have for the pawn - I don't see it.
Aug-10-16
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  WorstPlayerEver: 15... ed4 16. cd4 c5 seems to give Black some counterplay according to SF7.
Aug-10-16
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  WorstPlayerEver: Because I'm in such a good mood and it is so instructive to see what effort, consideration and patience it takes to win the position for White, I'm willing to share my analysis here :)

36. Qa6 Ba6 37. Re8 Rf6 38. Rc1 Kf7 39. Rd8 Bd6 40. Rd7 Kg8 41. Re1 Rb7 (NB: Black is forced to exchange as they were at move 36..) 42. Rb7 Bb7 43. Rd1 Ba6 44. Rc1 Bf4 45. Rc5 Kf7 46. g3 Bd6 47. Rc1 Bb4 48. Rc7 Kg8 49. f4 Rd6* 50. Nc2 Rd1 51. Kf2 Bf8 52. Rc6 Bb7 53. Rb6 Bh1 54. Ne3 Rb1 55. Ke2 Rb2 56. Kd3 Be7 57. a6 Ra2 58. Nf5 Bf8 59. h4 Ra3 60. Ne3 Ra4 61. Kc3 Kh7 62. h5 Be4 63. Nd2 Bc5 64. Re6

-49. f4 Be1* 50. Kh2 g5 51. f5 Rd6 52. Nc2 (again: White forces Black to exchange..) Rd3 53. Ne1 Rb3 54. Rc6 Bf1 55. Rh6 Kg7 56. Rc6 Ra3 57. Nc2 Ra2 58. Rc3 Bb5 59. Kg1 Ra5 60. Rc5 Kf6 61. g4 Ke7 62. Kf2 Kd6 63. Rc3 Ke5 64. Kg3

In both cases it still takes some skill to clearly win the position. Let's say ELO 2750+ level ;)

Aug-10-16
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  iking: .....

1. 66... Rh2+ 67. Kg1 Rhg2+ 68. Nxg2 Rxg2+ 69. Kxf1 Rxg3 70. Rc4 Kh5 71. Rf6 Kg5 72. Rcc6 Rxh3 73. Kg2 Rh4 74. Rxg6+ Kf4 75. Rxh6 Rxh6 76. Rxh6 Kg5 77. Ra6 Kf5 78. Kf2 Ke5 79. Ke3 Kd5 80. Ra5+ Kc6 81. Kd4 Kd6 82. Ra6+ Ke7 83. Ke5 Kd7 84. f4 Kc7 85. Kd5 Kb7 86. Rc6 Kb8 87. Kc5 Kb7 88. Kb5 Kb8

2. 66... Bxh3 67. Nxh3+ Kh5 68. Nf4+ Kg5 69. Rc5#

3. 66... Bg2+ 67. Nxg2 Ra1+ 68. Kh2 Rxg2+ 69. Kxg2 Ra2+ 70. Kf1 Ra1+ 71. Ke2 Ra2+ 72. Kd3 Ra3+ 73. Kc4 Kh5 74. Rc5+ g5 75. Rc6 Ra1 76. Kb3 Rb1+ 77. Ka2 Rb7 78. Rh8 Ra7+ 79. Kb2 Rb7+ 80. Kc2 Rb2+ 81. Kxb2 g4 82. fxg4+ Kg5 83. Rg8#

4. 66... h5 67. h4+ Kh6 68. Rh8#

Aug-10-16
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  Jimfromprovidence: After 61...Kf7, one way black holds is after 62 Nf4 Bxg2+ 63 Nxg2 Rb1+ 64 Kh2 Rbb2.


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Black's two pawns provide cover from the rook checks.

Aug-10-16
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  thegoodanarchist: Why did Black sac a pawn so early?
Aug-11-16  activechess55: <thegoodanarchist: Why did Black sac a pawn so early?> Yeah. I also tried to find out. There seems to be no logic behind pawn sacrifice 16.... b4 . Why topa returned A-file pawn is also a mystery. After that, with all pawns on the same wing, the game became a little drawish. But Ding's blunder cost him dear.
Aug-11-16
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  WorstPlayerEver: The only thing I can thinķ of is that Ding thought that he could win the e-pawn by playing 16... b4 Or wanted the Bishop pair after 20. Bc5
but 20. Qb1 defends the e-pawn 4 times, maybe Ding has overlooked that move.
Sep-20-16  chessperson2222222: 16...b4? just loses a pawn...
Sep-20-16  poteite: What about
66. g3 R2h+ 67.Kg1 Bxh3 68. NxB Rg2+ 69.Kf1 Rxg3 Black could hold?
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