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|Dec-09-16|| ||tim butler: Are we seeing the downfall of Nakamura?|
|Dec-09-16|| ||plang: <chancho: Kind of embarrassing how a Super Grandmaster like Naka fell into 13...Nxe4 with loss of a pawn.>|
He gets the pawn back.
I doubt he overlooked 13..Nxe4 though he may have misjudged the resulting position
|Dec-09-16|| ||8284: any post game innerviews?|
|Dec-09-16|| ||dumbgai: <I doubt he overlooked 13..Nxe4 though he may have misjudged the resulting position>|
That's a pretty severe case of misjudging. Look at the position around move 17 (just a few moves later): black has the bishop pair while white has a weakened pawn structure and awkwardly placed king.
This looks like a game between an amateur and a master. White gets a bad position out of the opening and it just gets worse with every move after that.
|Dec-09-16|| ||chancho: <He gets the pawn back.>|
Sure, Naka gets the pawn back, but getting Wesley's c pawn for the loss of his own important e pawn is not exactly a good trade.
By winning the c5 pawn, Naka hands over a half open c file which Wesley quickly exploits to target and win Naka's c4 pawn which translates to a total collapse after that.
|Dec-09-16|| ||SirRuthless: How blind do you have to be to just allow this activity black gets after ...Nxe4? Forget the lost pawn and just ask yourself about activity... |
Total opening failure for Hikaru and deserved beating delivered by Wesley. I can't call this a masterpiece but Wesley knew Hikaru's prep better than he knew it and that alone is worth the 5 points.
|Dec-09-16|| ||Kamagong42: nice!!! :)|
|Dec-09-16|| ||fisayo123: Nakamura should be the one recieving birthday presents not the other way round.|
|Dec-09-16|| ||HeMateMe: white stunk it up. Tomorrow's another day.|
|Dec-09-16|| ||chancho: Tomorrow is another day and it brings Anish Giri.|
|Dec-09-16|| ||RookFile: Opening prep is important. Naka has done a good job of toughening up his openings in the last few years. Evidently there are just a couple of blind spots left.|
|Dec-09-16|| ||blackdranzer: I am pretty sure even a patzer such as myself wouldn't have played Ne2 even in blitz!...what was naka thinking is beyond me..was he on too much red bull?!..|
|Dec-10-16|| ||SimplicityRichard: This rivalry is hotting up! It's great for chess.#|
|Dec-10-16|| ||maelith: <blackdranzer: I am pretty sure even a patzer such as myself wouldn't have played Ne2 even in blitz!...what was naka thinking is beyond me..was he on too much red bull?!>|
There are billion more worse moves that a patzer did than this move.
|Dec-10-16|| ||savagerules: Has Nakamura peaked and now heading south? Is he past 30 yrs old? Perhaps all the blitz/bullet games don't help when it comes to the slower games at the highest level.|
|Dec-10-16|| ||KoNUlla: I love how quick people are to draw conclusion and change their opinion after just one game..|
|Dec-10-16|| ||izimbra: The course of play suggests that So was better prepared for this line and Nakamura got distracted by noticing he had fallen into So's prep with White. The move <9...e5> is solid but relatively new in the databases and So chose the engine's best continuations, as novelties, for a few moves after that. In contrast, Naka's <11.c4> and <12.Bg5> were not blunders, but they were not best choices either. Then, as noted, <13.Ne2> "drops a pawn" - but that has two meanings. Literally, the pawn is sacrificed, but White regains the material a few moves later. In terms of engine eval though, White is down by more than 1 pawn because the continuation leaves the White K stranded in the middle of the board with no castling opportunity while the Black King is safely tucked away. Perhaps that reality was simply not observed in a moment of frustration from Naka at getting out prepared.|
|Dec-10-16|| ||dm1991: Not a great game. Naka messed up his prep while Wes didn't show much either. I don't understand 21... Bxc4. It feels like overcomplicating things. Was 21... Rxc4 exchanging a pair of rooks and getting rid of any pins on the loose Rc8 bad?|
Naka now lost two crucial games to Wes. First one in the Sinquefield Cup W So vs Nakamura, 2016 which basically gave Wes the outright win and a big boost to his GCT campaign while now it may give Wes the overall GCT win and maybe also a tournament win. I guess he'll now draw the rest of his games and finish on +1 or +2 like in the Sinquefield Cup (beating Adams or Topalov).
|Dec-10-16|| ||iking: <dm1991: Not a great game. Naka messed up his prep while Wes didn't show much either>, Wesley did a rare move on 9th move, his prep i believe is good.|
|Dec-10-16|| ||Ulhumbrus: If 13 Ne2 is not an oversight it may be a miscalculation|
|Dec-10-16|| ||iking: https://www.chess.com/news/aronian-...|
|Dec-10-16|| ||N0B0DY: The beautiful thing about learning is <nobody> can take it away from you.|
|Dec-10-16|| ||Ron: Yeah, at the end of move 12, Stockfish 7 gives White some advantage. But after 13 Ne2, the evals jump to over 1.30 for Black.|
I take an interest in D4 games among grand-masters. After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. e4 Nxc3 6. bxc3 Bg7, I've been lately playing Bc4 followed by Ne2; Karpov played that.
|Dec-17-16|| ||Kamagong42: 29 moves!!!|
|Dec-23-16|| ||Toribio3: Simple chess by Wesley So but its killing them one by one in a cold blood!|
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