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|Jul-09-18|| ||areknames: Got it immediately. 40..Re7 would appear to be the decisive error although Black is pretty much lost already. Good to see the fearless and flamboyant Hector featured in a POTD even if this particular game is fairly unremarkable.|
|Jul-09-18|| ||leRevenant: <bengalcat47: This signaled the downfall of the mighty Gupta Empire.>|
Hector's protected; Gupta forced to Abhjicate.
|Jul-09-18|| ||malt: 43.R:f8+ K:f8 44.Rd8#|
|Jul-09-18|| ||Mayankk: Wasn’t the losing move 11... b5?
Weakening your Queen-side pawn structure when the King-side is ruined already. Thereby ensuring that your King will be a target for the rest of the game with no easy hiding place.
|Jul-09-18|| ||morfishine: Its funny to watch Black wiggle around for 42 moves only to fall into this elementary theme|
|Jul-09-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: Gupta got the jeet beat out of him. :)|
|Jul-09-18|| ||CHESSTTCAMPS: Four problems in one.
Let's see - there's the helpmate in 1 (colors reversed from traditional helpmate) - 43.Rb1 Rxc2#. A helpmate in 2 - 43.R1d8 Rxc2+ 44.Kb1 Rc1#. Oh - then there's the solution - 43.Rxf8+ leading to the familiar (and elegant) Anastasia's mate (see pattern checkmates https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Check...). Finally, there's the "Can I recover from a blunder" problem - can white still win after 43.R1d8?? ? Try this without your engine!
|Jul-09-18|| ||patzer2: <Mayankk: Wasn’t the losing move 11... b5?> I don't think so. With White castling Queenside, and Black's Kingside a potential target, initiating counterplay on the Queenside seems appropriate. Indeed, according to our Stockfish 9 application, 11...b5 = (0.00 @ 31 ply, analysis of move 11...?) was Black's best move.|
It's true Black's Kingside is not a very good hiding place, but it doesn't become a significant weakness until 17...0-0?! (castling into it). Instead, 17...Be7 = (0.00 @ 35 ply, Stockfish 9 analysis of move 17...?) holds it level.
Black's losing move appears to be 25...Bf8?, allowing 26. Nf5 ± to +-. Instead, 25...Bf6 = would have held it near level.
|Jul-09-18|| ||Mayankk: patzer2 - 17 ... Be7 was basically a draw by repetition. Why play an aggressive move like b5 at all if the best outcome is chickening out and a draw by repetition just a few moves later?|
25 ... Bf6 does seem like a better plan but in general 11 ... b5 doesn’t seem fit for practical human play. Maybe for the Silicon which doesn’t care about pressure, but in human games why would you play a variation where you have to worry about your king’s safety at each move later?
|Jul-09-18|| ||Txalaparta: Para PENGUINCW 1...Nh2,2Kg1,Qxf2.3Kxh2,Qh4#.Thanks for this extra one.|
|Jul-09-18|| ||HeMateMe: I'm ready for Magnus...|
|Jul-09-18|| ||takchess: Happy Anastasia Monday !|
|Jul-09-18|| ||bengalcat47: leRevenant The Gupta empire was a powerful state the ruled northern India from about 240 to 590 AD. The empire was weakened by repeated invasions from Central Asian tribes related to the Huns in the 6th century. During the Gupta period the development of our modern Hindu-Arabic numerals began, and also the game of Chaturanga, the forerunner of chess.|
|Jul-09-18|| ||Penguincw: Ding ding. Congrats <Count Wedgemore>.|
That is indeed the solution. If 1.Ke1, 1.Ke2 or 1.Rxh2, then 1...Qxf2# 0-1.
Also possible is 1.Kg1 Bxf2+ 2.Kxh2 Qh4# 0-1.
Haha good job to you too. I'll probably miss a <cg> puzzle later this week, on my own accord. ;)
< takchess: Happy Anastasia Monday ! >
Yay I thought it was Anastasia mate too.
|Jul-09-18|| ||gawain: Tinkered briefly with 42 Nh6+. Then found the right answer. Very convenient for White, having a rook sitting on d1.|
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|Jul-09-18|| ||Cheapo by the Dozen: Good Monday puzzle.
The first couple of ideas don't work. Black's ability to check suggests a forcing move might be best. The most forcing move does turn out to work.
And that whole analysis only takes a few seconds.
|Jul-09-18|| ||Marmot PFL: Mr. Gupta's only loss in this strong tournament where he tied for 2nd. One mark of a strong player is ability to recover from even a bad loss.|
|Jul-09-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: <Marmot PFL: Mr. Gupta's only loss in this strong tournament where he tied for 2nd. One mark of a strong player is ability to recover from even a bad loss.>|
I don't know how well that fits Hector, at least in the Iliad. Ajax almost kills him but Zeus sends Apollo to give him new strength, even though he knows that Achilles is fated to kill Hector just a few days later. Almost as bad as Jehovah!
|Jul-09-18|| ||patzer2: <Why play an aggressive move like b5 at all if the best outcome is chickening out and a draw by repetition just a few moves later?> Magnus Carlsen has called this "pulling the emergency brake."|
At times the best option is to force the draw instead of taking an unnecessary risk. IMO, that's the decision Black faced in playing the risky 17...0-0?! ⩲ instead of the safe
Some would rather take a risk of losing rather than taking a safe draw. Others, such as myself, would rather take the draw and not risk losing.
That difference, at least to me, is part of what makes Chess so interesting and fun-- especially at the human level.
P.S.: Do you see a better option than 16...b5 =. If so, what 16th move do you recommend for Black.
|Jul-09-18|| ||whiteshark: 43.Rxf8+ Kxf8 44.Rd8# finis|
|Jul-09-18|| ||leRevenant: <bengalcat47:> interesting; thank you.|
|Jul-09-18|| ||Mayankk: Patzer2 - I guess you mean 11... b5. Prima facie, the two big threats for Black seem to be opening up of the central files via 12 d5 and an incursion into the Kingside via 12 Qh6. 11... Nb6 seems to negate these threats somewhat as it prepares for 0-0-0 and dares White to make a pawn sacrifice on d5 (which looks quite strong from a first glance)
Black will probably have to defend well in any case. But still it seems more of a practical option than b5...|
|Jul-10-18|| ||jith1207: <ChrisOwen>'s buggy software seems to have got corrupted even more.|
|Jul-11-18|| ||patzer2: <Mayankk> Thanks. I did mean alternatives to 11...b5. Your 11...Nb6 looks reasonable. However, after 11...Nb6 12. Ne5 ± (+0.75 @ 27 ply, Stockfish 8) it appears White has a clear advantage and Black will be in a long and difficult battle to try and equalize.|
So I still prefer 11...b5 =, even if it does quickly lead to a draw.
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