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|Nov-04-18|| ||al wazir: I got 19. Ng5 hxg5 20. Qxg5+ Kf7, no sweat.
But then I would have played 21. Rxh5. How that can not win? If 21...Bxh5, then 22. Qxh5+ Kg7/Kg8 23. Qg5+ Kf7 24. Bh5#. If 21...Bf5, then 22. Qxf5+ Qxf5 23. Rxf5+ Kg8 24. Rg5+ Kf7 25. Bh5#. Or if 21...Rg8, then 22. Rxh7+ Ng7 23. Rxg7+ Rxg7 24. Qxg7+ Ke8 25. Qg8+ Kd7 26. Bxg4+.
But then there's also 21...Qf5. Oops.
Oh well, maybe I would have found 21. Qxh5 OTB. (Do I hear anyone saying, "In your dreams"?)
|Nov-04-18|| ||kungfufighter888: the power of bishop pair!!!!!!!|
|Nov-04-18|| ||messachess: Just about the coolest combination ever. Nice mate.|
|Nov-04-18|| ||Mayankk: I was in the Rxh5 camp as well, after the obvious first couple of moves.|
Do we have a consensus on whether it’s a win, hard-fought probably but a win nevertheless, despite the Qf5 defence?
|Nov-04-18|| ||Walter Glattke: If I was the black player, I would take 19.-Qf5. 20.Bxg4!? Qb1+.|
|Nov-04-18|| ||Helloween: <Walter Glattke> 19...Qf5 20.Be4 is game|
|Nov-04-18|| ||bcokugras: How will the windmill result in after black plays 25. Kg8 rather than 25. Rf6?|
|Nov-04-18|| ||yadasampati: <bcokugras> 25...Kg8 26. Rg7+ Kh8 27. Rg6+ Rf6 28. Bxf6#|
|Nov-04-18|| ||agb2002: I remember this one.|
|Nov-04-18|| ||bcokugras: Thanks “yadasampati”.|
|Nov-04-18|| ||Cybe: 19... Rf7!|
|Nov-04-18|| ||schachfuchs: Yes, the engine gives only +0.65 for
19.Ng5 Rf7 20.Nxf7 Qf5 21.Qe3 Kxf7 22.Be4 Qg5 23.Qxg5 fxg5 24.f3 Bd7 25.Rxh5 Nf6 26.Rxg5 Rh8 27.Bd3 h6 28.Rg1 h5 29.e4 e5 30.f4 exf4 31.Rf1 Ke7 32.Rxf4 Rh6 33.e5 dxe5 34.Bxe5 h4 35.Kf1 b6 36.Bb8 h3 37.Kg1
Nevertheless, a really nice combination and puzzle!
|Nov-04-18|| ||scormus: Fabulous winning combination, one that any chess players would dream of playing at least once in their life.|
<schachfuchs> yes, my engine gave the same as yours. But after 19 .... fxg5 then it gives # in 14.
I like to think W saw when playing 19 Ng5 that if .... fxg5 then B was completely lost after 21 Qxh5. Even if he didn't then I'm sure he saw that he had at least a draw (pointed out in a previous post).
What might have been tempting was 21 Rxh5? Like <al wazir> I picked that without giving it proper thought, it looks so crushing. .... Qf5 looks like the only playable move, but it's enoug to give B a modest advantage.
For a Sunday the first move was rather obvious, but it is neccessary to see 21 Qxh5! and realise that W has the advantage after B's best defense 19 ... Rf2!
|Nov-04-18|| ||TheaN: It's somewhat disappointing that on the puzzle move <19.?> <19.Ng5> is only about .7 for White after 19....Rf7!, which is far from enough for a win.|
Sure, SF is just as ruthless calling a mate in 14 after <19....hxg5? 20.Qxg5+ Kf7 21.Qxh5+!! Bxh5 (Kg8 22.Qxh7#) 22.Bxh5+ Kg8 23.Rg1+ Ng7 24.Rxg7+ Kh8 25.Rxe7+ Rf6 (Kg8 26.Rg7+ Kh8 27.Rg6+ Rf6 28.Bxf6#) 26.Bxf6+ Kg8 27.Rg7+ Kf8 28.Rxh7!> surprisingly this is all forced and Black has no practical answer to Rh8#. White should only be wary after <28....Qg4!? 29.Bxg4> to have patience. The mating net's still there after <29....Kg8 30.Rh6> protecting Bf6 <30....Re8 31.Bxe6+ Rxe6 32.dxe6 a6 33.Rh8#>. So yes, #14.
|Nov-04-18|| ||Marmot PFL: Always seems risky to grab that exchange and give up the fianchetto B. Maybe not so much if white had already castled king side but here he has the h-file attack coming quickly. Black never seemed to have much hope of defending.|
|Nov-04-18|| ||FlashinthePan: I found the game's continuation up to 20.Qxg5 +Kf7, but then I thought 21.Rxh5 was the winning move, as I missed Black's defense of 21...Qe5 forcing the exchange of queens and annihilating White's attack. The game's 21.Qxh5 is indeed a brilliancy.|
|Nov-04-18|| ||Breunor: Wow what a combination! Joy for a chess fan!|
|Nov-04-18|| ||NBZ: <Mayankk> I tried quite a bit to make Rxh5 work, but couldn't see a clear path. The best idea I had was Rxh5 Bxh5 Bxh5 with the idea of Ng5 next, but Black has a move and he can play Qf5 or Qh3.|
|Nov-04-18|| ||PJs Studio: This combination is filthy. Hope Bortnyk showered afterward. Wow! I got it right up to Qxh4(!!!) black can wiggle out of Rxh4?|
Absolutely gorgeous treatment of the squares around his opponents king
|Nov-04-18|| ||PJs Studio: Just heard this story today:
Radjabov at 16 beat Kasparov. Gary was so disgusted (with Radjabov’s ingenious play, that Kasparov fought beautifully against, I can add) he got up and walked out of the hall and Radjabov was forced to win on time.
Then when the organizers awarded Radjabov the brilliancy prize for the game, Kasparov got up and gave a dissertation about how Radjabov was busted - which simply wasn’t true. I’m a huge Kasparov fan and then he pulls childish crap like this Ugh!!!
|Nov-04-18|| ||ughaibu: Radjabov was fifteen. Kasparov insisted that he had "blundered" so didn't need to explain what was going on. There were quite a few perplexed viewers, so it certainly wasn't a blunder.|
Kasparov could be a real twit, on occasion.
|Nov-04-18|| ||patzer2: Our Stockfish 9 Application's analysis of move 19...? gives
+0.78 (41 ply) 19...Rf7 20.Nxf7 Qf5 21.Qe3 Kxf7 22.Be4 Qg5 23.Qxg5 fxg5 24.f3 Bd7 25.Rxh5 Nf6 26.Rxg5 Rg8 27.Rxg8 Kxg8 28.Bd3 Kf7 29.Kf2 b5 30.e4 bxc4 31.Bxc4 Ne8 32.Be2 Nf6 33.Bd3 e5 34.dxe6+ Kxe6 35.Kg3 Bc6 36.Kh4 h6 37.Bc1 d5 38.exd5+ Kxd5 39.Bxh6 Kd4 40.Be2 Nd5 41.Bd2 Nc3 42.Bxc3+ Kxc3 43.Kg4 Bd7+ 44.Kf4 |
The line that gave me the most difficulty was 19. Ng5 Bf5, when Stockfish 9's analysis of move 20.? indicates White wins with 20.Rg1 Rf7 21.Nxf7+ Bg4 22.Be4 +- (+17.35 @25 ply)
P.S.: Black's game takes an early turn for the worse with 10...Bh6? allowing 11. d5! ± (+1.08 @ 21 ply, Stockfish 9 analysis of move 11.?).
Instead, 10...Ne4 = (+0.11 @ 21 ply, Stockfish 9 analysis of move 10...?) appears to give Black level chances.
|Nov-04-18|| ||patzer2: Though the computers prefer 8...c5, the second player has had more success OTB with 8...c6 as in Black's win in S Vaibhav vs S Mihajlov, 2018.|
|Nov-05-18|| ||pdxjjb: Amusingly, if white just plays 16 h4 and 17 h5, black is lost to a much simpler attack down the h-file and we never even get to this spectacular combination. Chess is a funny thing.|
|Nov-05-18|| ||PJs Studio: Right on pdx. This is one of the most beautiful combos I’ve ever seen.|
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