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Wesley So vs Magnus Carlsen
Tata Steel (2017), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 1, Jan-14
Slav Defense: Quiet Variation. Schallopp Defense (D12)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jan-14-17
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  Amulet: Wesley's level of play is equal to that of Carlsen.
Jan-15-17  Clement Fraud: An awful game highly reminiscent of the recent world championship... ie, most pieces swapped off and a very stale position by move 14.
Jan-15-17
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  Bobby Fiske: Carlsen post game interview: "This is Wes' play style when facing stronger opponents. He doesn't take much chances, which makes him difficult to beat. He is pragmatic, which is why he has reached so far".
Jan-15-17  dm1991: <Clement Fraud: An awful game highly reminiscent of the recent world championship... ie, most pieces swapped off and a very stale position by move 14.> I think i need to check out the last WCh once again because i think i watched something different by mistake. Wesley really needs some balls. Also Carlsen's play seems to change a bit. I wonder if this year he'll try a dutch or something against the big guns Caruana vs Carlsen, 2015, Anand vs Carlsen, 2015.
Jan-16-17
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  tuttifrutty: <Carlsen post game interview: "This is Wes' play style when facing stronger opponents. He doesn't take much chances, which makes him difficult to beat. He is pragmatic, which is why he has reached so far".>

Carlsen's statement cracks me up. In reality, Magnus is looking at the mirror and blames Wes for playing perfect chess. Since when did Magnus took chances??? You tell me.

Chess is not Las Vegas....hello!!!

<Pragmatic- dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations.>

Sweet...

Why chance it when Wesley is <So> sure that all his moves are solid...and im penetratable. Like a true barracuda, Wes is ferocious, he waits for opportunity to unleash his razor sharp teeth then slice and swallows his favorite snacks.

Jan-16-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  wordfunph: Maybe Carlsen made that statement in the context of him having the black pieces and the So fans' expectancy and fervent prayers that he may finally get a win from Carlsen in regular play.
Jan-16-17  dm1991: <wordfunph: Maybe Carlsen made that statement in the context of him having the black pieces and the So fans' expectancy and fervent prayers that he may finally get a win from Carlsen in regular play.> I think he's just honest. It seems he is often honest even if it means being harsh. He could be a fine teacher but his communication and explanation skills are rather poor.
Jan-17-17  jerry crus: < Maybe Carlsen made that statement in the context of him having the black pieces and the So fans' expectancy and fervent prayers that he may finally get a win from Carlsen in regular play> ...and you are who's praying the most, right!
Jan-18-17
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  thegoodanarchist: <keypusher: <Tga> Bronstein....surely there are others, but I'm not coming up with them.>

<chancho: Najdorf... Polugayevsky...

https://en.chessbase.com/portals/4/...

I think Bronstein is a good example.

I wouldn't put Najdorf or Polugayevsky in the same category of "great" as Reshevsky or Tal.

Jan-18-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: <chancho>

I just looked at your link - those guys are not "bald," but only "balding".

In fact, in the field of hair loss, as in chess, they were not the equal of Tal or Reshevsky or Bronstein.

Jan-18-17
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  PawnSac: < whiteshark: Wesley So undefeated since Carlsen vs W So, 2016 (how many games?) >

if the CG database contains all his games played since then, the answer is 46. that's a pretty good run.

Apr-13-17  The Boomerang: "Wesley's level of play is equal to that of Carlsen."

Yeah thats why Wesley has lost to Carlsen a few times in both blitz, rapid and classical.

Apr-13-17  The Boomerang: Perish the thought of So being any less than Carlsen, the world champion and worlds highest rated player the last 7 years.

His fans should be happy where he is at and not get ahead of themselves, desperate for him to gain NO.1 status in the chess world.

Apr-13-17  epistle: I've told you before: So plays Carlsen with a h...on.
Apr-22-17  talhal20: Carlsen plays boring chess when compared to the past masters like Morphy or Tal yet the fact remains that Carlsen is world champion and not So.
Apr-22-17  gokusano: Certainly! And Carlsen is still rated #1. Factual.
Apr-22-17  epistle: Matumal ang clicking ng mga click boyz a. Nagsasawa na rin yata.
Apr-22-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  wordfunph: kargado salonpas katawan ng mga fanboyz sa pagpisak ni Mamed sa kanilang aydol

napakasakit Kuya Ediweii..

Apr-23-17  bien pensant: When So blunders, he loses. When Carlsen blunders, he draws.
Apr-23-17  jaccas: Therefore, Carlsen draws with Rapport at Tata 2017 ? LoL
Apr-23-17  bien pensant: A rare exception...Cite more examples to disprove it
Apr-24-17  jaccas: Karjakin at WCC 2016, Nakamura at Bilbao 2016, Aronian at Norway 2016. LOL.
Apr-24-17  epistle: The examples being asked are CARLSEN blundering and losing because of the blunder. So are you laughing because you thought wrongly, or are you laughing out of frustration that you couldn't respond to the challenge?
Apr-24-17  jaccas: Why are you fond of gatecrashing e ? Look somebody else to talk to.

Anyway, see it for yourself if there were blunders b4 losing? Was it a draw bp ?

https://www.chessbomb.com/arena/201...

https://www.chessbomb.com/arena/201...

https://www.chessbomb.com/arena/201...

Apr-25-17
Premium Chessgames Member
  ambongtumbong: not gatecrashing.. it is super trolling.
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