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Loek van Wely vs Pavel Eljanov
Tata Steel (2017), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-15
Queen's Indian Defense: Fianchetto Variation. General (E15)  ·  0-1


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Jan-15-17  John Abraham: first!
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  whiteshark: I'll just drop in for a second!
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  An Englishman: Good Evening: What refutes 41.e7? 41...Qh4+; 42.Kg1,Rc1+; 43.Bf1,Qg4+; 44.Kh2,Rxf1 looks crushing, but have I overlooked something?
Jan-16-17  scholes: No engine gives your line only and mate in 9
Jan-16-17  Howard: Could you please clarify what you mean? Are you saying that 41.e7 loses?
Jan-16-17  Kaspablanca: Howard: If 41. e7 black wins with ...41Qh4+
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  ChessHigherCat: What refutes 25. Qxe6? If 25..Bd5 26. Qxf5 Ne4 27. Qh5 Nxf2+ 28. Kg1 Nxd1 29. Ng6+ Kg8 30. Nxf8 Bxe3+ 31. Kh1 Rxc1 and that's as far as my addled brain can get without a board. Is that right?
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  Gilmoy: After <An Englishman>'s line, we have:

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And White is one tempo short: 45.e8Q <isn't check> Qh4+ forks f2. Black can capture either way and still have a Q-R mate pattern.

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  catlover: <ChessHigherCat> I think the problem with 23 Qxe6 is that it takes a tempo away from white moving his king off of that a8-h1 diagonal, which has black's queen and bishop putting a lot of pressure on the knight on f3 and the bishop on g2.

A possible way 23 Qxe6 might play out could be:25. Qxe6 Ng4 26. Kg1 Nxe5 27. Nh4 Nf3+ 28. Bxf3 Bxf3 29. Nxf3 Qxf3 30. Qd5 Qg4+

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  ajile: Beautiful opening. Wish I could play the QID as good as Eljanov.
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  ChessHigherCat: <catlover> Intuitively it looked like a cheapo pawn-snatching move but sometimes better players get away with that stuff so I wanted to know the refutation. Anyway, thanks, your refutation with Ng4 looks faster than than mine with Ne4.
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  JustWoodshifting: I still don't know where van Wely went wrong. He played the best computer lines.

Ahhh, maybe that was it.

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