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Gawain Jones vs Vladimir Dobrov
Tata Steel (Challengers) (2017), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 12, Jan-28
Sicilian Defense: Delayed Alapin Variation (B40)  ·  1-0
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Jun-14-18
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  Marmot PFL: First three moves are easy but black keeps fighting and the finish has to be accurate from white.
Jun-14-18
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  chrisowen: Doors divot uvsus nd6us dufflog lunks rd5us dunkus evicts re7us eggshead rd8us dunkhoods lunks to it dives 25Qd3+ drubber keyus clung ebbon ducks dikey 4 it ok oinks ousts keyin lunkus rf7us flungoff kg8us ghosthunt lunksus rg7us goodlung kh8us hunthoods lunks to it finishy 27Kf8 bigus doves dones lunksus flushoust 6 ousts lunks to it giveinsy 28.Rg3 klubs gourd 8 ousts keyin doors rodus blush bagus tagus vatican vipus pivot pawns nuffs keyin junks lucks lemons clemz it's vasts fritz keyin thens packy keyus warmed it's vasts minds keyon finish fifth kents payus wayus mandy fadus knews zincs zipus kepts keyus wizzy danks fewus fezus thyus wimps winks wands dawns nd6us dufflog dikey keyin doors rodus blush bugus grubs uvsus bagus gates tagus vivas flavs vatican viaus pivot whips pawns nuffs keyin joffy junks lucks cells lecture mecks lemons clemz it's vasts fritz keyin thens packy keyus warmed it's vasts dikey lunks to it dive 24.Nd6 Rd5 25.Rxe7 Rd8 cogents ebbus lunksus dunkhoods iffys fives keyus fount flung nd6us dublong duckout keythen kinds keyin keyus duldrum dufflog dugoust dutchus clods evers nd6us docklug donthug doorlug doursus doots dutch donts flush hoofs huffs goofs guffs lunks to it biv 23Rb5 daddy codes bounty keyin 4 it ok oinks ousts lunks to it fiv 23Qf4 cains codes fount 0 ousts keyin lunks to it dives 25Qd3+ drubber keyus clung ebbon ducks dikey 4 it ok oinks ousts keyin foods funds keynub flogs gulch hudus hound hogus huggy duffs foods flood dunks ducks lunks to it finish 26.Rf7+ jodhod flungoff lunks to it givein 26Kg8 27.Rxg7+ jastha gunghood lunks to it hiveins 27Kh8 biggy lunksus hunthoods lunks to it finishy 27Kf8 bigus drown ebbus keyon lunksus flushoust 6 ousts loots keyus lunks to it giveinsy 28.Rg3 klubs gourd 8 ousts keyin jogus jodpur goods dugus jugular nodus dikey court clock cosys coulds motor johns ducks hoods blush foxin buffs clomp beyond poors dutys query botty bouts keyus butty bunts trouble keyon hoofs huffs flush huhus hohus forth cobus block butch keychoose clubs pouts keyus pubus umsus eeljut flock hutch guffs keyus doors nd6us dufflog!
Jun-14-18
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  Carlos0012358: <agb2002> your line C) works well through 27.Nf5, but from there I would have played 27.....a5, 28.Rxg7 axb4, 29.Rxh7 Kg8, 30.Rb7 Rd2, 31.Nh6+ Kh8, 32.Ng4 Raxa2...... Attacking the white king with both rooks.
Let me know what you think.
Jun-14-18
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  Jimfromprovidence: <wtpy> <Nice combo which I saw through Rg7+. Playing through the game I was stumped briefly by 27.. Kh8 but then saw Rg3 which allowed Gawain to consolidate his gains.>

If 27...Kh8, 28 Rg3 below is better than you realized.


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It wins the queen because of the threat 29 Nf7#

Jun-14-18
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  morfishine: <mel gibson...Why didn't everyone see that like I did?> Perhaps the move <24.Nd6> was first seen by most. This happens often in these positional problems emanating from real games vs a puzzle created from scratch
Jun-14-18  wayndom: From the position shown, doesn't 24.Qe6 end the game faster? 24...Re8, 25.Nd6

Am I missing something here?

Jun-14-18
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  morfishine: <wayndom> Awkward is <24...Qxe4+> 25.Kb2 Rxb4+ 26.cxb4 Qxb4+
Jun-14-18  njchess: 24. ♘d6! ♖e5 ▢ 25. ♖xe7! +- Black has few if any good moves at this point. Perhaps 25. ... ♕d3+, forcing the queen trade, is the best of the worst. More likely, he should just resign.
Jun-14-18
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  OhioChessFan: <morfishine: Sometimes, things are too obvious <24.Qxc6> crunch>

<mel gibson: Yes - takes a pawn, attacks 2 Rooks & defends the Knight. Why didn't everyone see that like I did?>

24...Re8 25. Qxb5 Qxe4+ 26. Qd3 Qxg2 and Black still has a pulse.


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24...Rab8 and White has a lot of worries of a perpetual.

24...Rbb8 and both Rooks are defended, and Black intends Rc8. White is much better, but I don't see this as clearly winning as the game line.

Anyway, that's 3 lines for White to think over and none of them seem as clear cut as the game line.

Jun-14-18  et1: All the combination looks like magic In the final position white threatens Kf7 "! with fork and winning the Rook or mating. Amazing !
Jun-15-18  mel gibson: < I don't see this as clearly winning as the game line.>

True - but it's still a solution.

Jun-15-18
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  agb2002: <Carlos0012358: <agb2002> your line C) works well through 27.Nf5, but from there I would have played 27.....a5, 28.Rxg7 axb4, 29.Rxh7 Kg8, 30.Rb7 Rd2, 31.Nh6+ Kh8, 32.Ng4 Raxa2...... Attacking the white king with both rooks. Let me know what you think.>

The possibility 27... a5 didn't occur to me but in your line the natural 33.Rxb4 leaves Black a knight down without compensation. For example, 33... Rxg2 34.Nxf6 Rxh2 (to prevent h4-5-6) 35.Rh4+ Rxh4 36.Rxh4+ Kg7 37.Nh5+ Kg6 38.Kxa2, etc.

Aug-05-18
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  ChessHigherCat: I remember this one. Looks like a Tuesday puzzle with Nd6 threatening Qc7# and black has no defense except... Rd5! and the plot thickens.
Aug-05-18  yadasampati: How can a Thursday puzzle (June 14, 2018) suddenly become a Sunday puzzle? And again: if CG presents old puzzles, why do they choose puzzles of barely two months old?
Aug-05-18
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Aug-05-18
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Aug-05-18
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Aug-05-18
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Aug-05-18
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  CHESSTTCAMPS: White has the material disadvantage of knight for a pawn and a bishop, but white's three active pieces are better coordinated against the opposing king than black's corresponding force. A key observation is that black's bishop is pinned, any bishop move allowing Qf7#. White can force the issue with 24.Nd6! Rd5 (forced) 25.Rxe7! R8d8 (Kxe7 26.Nf5+) 26.Rf7+ Kg8 27.Rxg7+! Kf8 (Kxg7 28.Nf5+) 28.Rg3 with white emerging a knight ahead.
Aug-05-18
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  CHESSTTCAMPS: Regarding prior commentary, I actually looked at 25.Qxc6 first, but decided it was more complicated than 25.Rxe7 after 25... Qd3+.
Aug-05-18
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  chrisowen: Risky veyum nd6um dufflog vinty rinky rd5um dublog re7um eggshead rd8um dunkhoods lunky to it diver 25Qd3+ dublong every cogent ousty ducky vinty 3 4 it ok haver ovidy lunkum rf7um flungout kg8um ghosthung linkin rg7um goodlung kh8um hoodlungs lunky to it finishy 27Kf8 biggy lunkums flouthood 6 ousty vinty lunky to it giveluck 28.Rg3 black gourd 8 9 ousty vinty winum risky vinty mindy mully cover jugum natch wadum hadum datay tadum vinty tarquin quibbly bysum flippy hoody videy puffy puzzle it's vasty raily vivar flavy venty heaty tomby it's vasty vivar flavy laser muter vinty hawthorne wealths rimum vowum vimum harem wilty wreaths milly vetum vowum vimum rewash milty vowat nd6um dufflog vinty relov risky mrsum visage flock kissy missum rinky vowum vimum gungho mully lucky cover vigil jogon jaunty natch hawthorne hadum wadum tadum datay vinty tarquin quibbly bysum flippy hoody puffy puzzle it's vasty raily vivar flavy venty heaty tomby vinty lunky to it dive 24.Nd6 Rd5 25.Rxe7 Rd8 cogents duckhood vinty flout foody fount flowy flood iffyum nd6um dublong ducklog duddylo dufflog dugoust dutchog dulllog dumplog dunklog dutch duffy footy foody dugum goody hoofy huffy goofy guffy vinty lunky to it biv 23Rb5 daddy cuddle ousty bondus 3 4 it ok haver ovidy lunky to it fiv 23Qf4 cuddle ousty flood 0 1 it ok haver ovidy relov fiver lunky to it diver 25Qd3+ dublong every cogent ousty ducky 3 4 it ok haver ovidy lunky to it finish 26.Rf7+ jodhod flungout foody lunky to it givein 26Kg8 27.Rxg7+ jastha goodbung lunky to it hiveins 27Kh8 biggy lunkums hoodhunts lunky to it finishy 27Kf8 biggy lunkums flouthood 6 ousty vinty lunky to it giveluck 28.Rg3 black gourd 8 9 ousty vinty winum keyum jogon dugvow jugum nodum cosyum rumpy divine jondin vinty flocklost foody clomp budin vinty dutchhood quippy booty vinty about foody binty butty tubby tobyum hoofy hufflog huhum hohum cubby block focus bucky burpy bloopy addats eellog flocky vinty hohat goofy vinty risky nd6ons deffyon!
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Aug-05-18
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  messachess: Clever. Didn't see the first (very obvious!) move.
Aug-05-18
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  cormier: <<<<Stockfish 8> 15... Qb8> better is 15...Qe7 16.Be3 Nxe3 17.fxe3 Bc5 18.Rd1 Bxe3 19.Nd6+ Kf8 = +0.38 (31 ply)> 16. Be3 + / = +1.03 (30 ply)>
Aug-05-18
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  cormier:


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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 27 dpa

1. = (0.00): 13...Rb8 14.0-0 Qc7 15.Ne4 Bxh2+ 16.Kh1 Be5 17.Qh5+ g6 18.Bxe5 gxh5 19.Nxf6+ Kd8 20.Bxc7+ Kxc7 21.Bxd5 exd5 22.b3 Ba6 23.Rfe1 Rhf8 24.Re7+ Kd6 25.Rd7+ Kc5 26.b4+ Kb6 27.Rd6 Kc7 28.Rd7+ Kb6 29.Rd6

2. = (0.00): 13...0-0 14.Ne4 Bc7 15.0-0 f5 16.Nd2 e5 17.Bc5 Rf6 18.Re1 e4 19.g3 Be6 20.Nb3 Bf7 21.Qd2 Bb6 22.Rad1 Bxc5 23.Nxc5 Qe7 24.b4 Rd8 25.Bxd5 cxd5 26.Qd4 a5 27.a3 Rc8 28.Qe3 axb4 29.axb4 f4

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