chessgames.com
Members · Prefs · Laboratory · Collections · Openings · Endgames · Sacrifices · History · Search Kibitzing · Kibitzer's Café · Chessforums · Tournament Index · Players · Kibitzing

Loek van Wely vs Jean-Marc Degraeve
"One Foot in Degraeve" (game of the day Nov-12-2018)
PRO League Group Stage (2017) (rapid), chess.com INT, rd 7, Feb-22
Modern Defense: Rossolimo Variation (A41)  ·  1-0
ANALYSIS [x]

FEN COPIED

explore this opening
find similar games 3 more Van Wely/Degraeve games
PGN: download | view | print Help: general | java-troubleshooting

TIP: You can get computer analysis by clicking the "ENGINE" button below the game.

PGN Viewer:  What is this?
For help with this chess viewer, please see the Olga Chess Viewer Quickstart Guide.
PREMIUM MEMBERS CAN REQUEST COMPUTER ANALYSIS [more info]

Kibitzer's Corner
Nov-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: The game ends with an amateurish blunder, but there were lots of mistakes before that. 46...Nxe5 loses a piece, but then white gave back the exchange, so the transaction left white with ♘ + ♗ vs. black's ♖ + ♙.)
Nov-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Sargon: A very similar pun was used with a LAgrave game. I didn't catch it. Oh well...
Nov-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  catlover: One foot was in DeGreave, the other on a banana peel.
Nov-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  perfidious: Paths of glory lead but to Degraeve.
Nov-12-18  Honey Blend: <al wazir: The game ends with an amateurish blunder, but there were lots of mistakes before that. 46...Nxe5 loses a piece, but then white gave back the exchange, so the transaction left white with ♘ + ♗ vs. black's ♖ + ♙.)>

I am not so sure whether 46. ... ♘xe5 does lose a piece immediately, as after 47. ♘xe5 ♕b8 looks like Black can hold.


click for larger view

This looks quite playable to me.

Nov-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  OrangeTulip: Nice pun indeed!
Degraeve is a family name from the very north of France, towards the Belgian border, region Duinkerke. Where they still speak Dutch (Belgian and Netherlands have been one, once). In dutch the ‘ae’ sounds completely different.
Nov-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  thegoodanarchist: 53...Re5?? was a hideous blunder, but Black was lost anyway, due to his faulty combination earlier.
Nov-12-18  Keyser Soze: Huge blunder..But was rapid.He should be outta time..
Nov-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  al wazir: <Honey Blend: This looks quite playable to me.> You're right. Thanks.

But 53...Re5 was a blunder.

Nov-12-18
Premium Chessgames Member
  Breunor: According to Stockfish, 46 Nxe5 is best for black:

1) +0.80 (23 ply) 46...Nxe5 47.Rxe5 Bxe5 48.Nxe5 Qd6 49.Nd3 Re2+ 50.Rf2 Rxf2+ 51.Nxf2 Qxg3+ 52.Kxg3 Kf8 53.Ne4 d3 54.Bd1 Rc7 55.Kf4 f5 56.Ng5 Rc8 57.Ke3 Ke7 58.Kxd3 Rh8 59.Bf3 Kd6 60.Kc3 Rh4

2) +1.25 (23 ply) 46...Qb8 47.e6 Qxg3+ 48.Kxg3 fxe6 49.Rxe6 Rxe6 50.dxe6 Nf8 51.Nxc5 Re7 52.Re1 d3 53.Bxd3 Bd4 54.Nd7 Rxe6 55.Rxe6 Nxe6 56.Bxg6 Kg7 57.Be4 Kf7 58.Kg4 Ke7 59.Nb8 Bc3 60.h4 Nd4 61.h5 Nxb3 62.h6 Kf7

We see the players actually played the computer line until black's 51st move.

Running the analysis at move 51 we get that black is OK:

1) +0.47 (21 ply) 51...Qxg3+ 52.Kxg3 a4 53.bxa4 Rb4 54.Bd3 f5 55.Be2 Kg7 56.a5 Kf6 57.a6 Ra4 58.h4 Rxa6 59.Nd3 Ra2 60.Kf3 Ra5 61.Kf4 Ra2 62.Bf3 Ra4 63.Ne5 Ra3 64.d6

But 51 ... Qd8 gives white a big plus:

1) +1.71 (21 ply) 52.h4 a4 53.bxa4 Rb4 54.Bd3 Rxa4 55.h5 Ra2 56.hxg6 Qf6 57.g7 Qxg7 58.d6 Qxg3+ 59.Kxg3 Kf8 60.Ne4 Ra5 61.Kf4 Ke8 62.Ke5 f5 63.Nf6+ Kd8 64.Bxf5 Ra3

The position already evaluates to 2.5 before the horrible blunder of Re5.

NOTE: You need to pick a username and password to post a reply. Getting your account takes less than a minute, is totally anonymous, and 100% free—plus, it entitles you to features otherwise unavailable. Pick your username now and join the chessgames community!
If you already have an account, you should login now.
Please observe our posting guidelines:
  1. No obscene, racist, sexist, profane, raunchy, or disgusting language.
  2. No spamming, advertising, duplicate or nonsense posts.
  3. No malicious personal attacks, including cyber stalking, systematic antagonism, or gratuitous name-calling of any member Iincludinfgall Admin and Owners or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. If you think someone is an idiot, then provide evidence that their reasoning is invalid and/or idiotic, instead of just calling them an idiot. It's a subtle but important distinction, even in political discussions.
  4. Nothing in violation of United States law.
  5. No malicious posting of or linking to personal, private, and/or negative information (aka "doxing" or "doxxing") about any member, (including all Admin and Owners) or any of their family, friends, associates, or business interests. This includes all media: text, images, video, audio, or otherwise. Such actions will result in severe sanctions for any violators.
  6. NO TROLLING. Admin and Owners know it when they see it, and sanctions for any trolls will be significant.
  7. Any off-topic posts which distract from the primary topic of discussion are subject to removal.
  8. The use of "sock puppet" accounts to circumvent disciplinary action taken by Moderators is expressly prohibited.
  9. The use of "sock puppet" accounts in an attempt to undermine any side of a debate—or to create a false impression of consensus or support—is prohibited.
  10. All decisions with respect to deleting posts, and any subsequent discipline, are final, and occur at the sole discretion of the Moderators, Admin, and Owners.
  11. Please try to maintain a semblance of civility at all times.
Blow the Whistle See something that violates our rules? Blow the whistle and inform a Moderator.

NOTE: Keep all discussion on the topic of this page. This forum is for this specific game and nothing else. If you want to discuss chess in general, or this site, visit the Kibitzer's Café.

Messages posted by Chessgames members do not necessarily represent the views of Chessgames.com, its employees, or sponsors. All Moderator actions taken are at the sole discretion of the Admin and Owners—who will strive to act fairly and consistently at all times.

This game is type: RAPID. Please report incorrect or missing information by submitting a correction slip to help us improve the quality of our content.

Featured in the Following Game Collection[what is this?]
November 12: One Foot in Degraeve
from Game of the Day 2018 by Phony Benoni


home | about | login | logout | F.A.Q. | your profile | preferences | Premium Membership | Kibitzer's Café | Biographer's Bistro | new kibitzing | chessforums | Tournament Index | Player Directory | Notable Games | World Chess Championships | Opening Explorer | Guess the Move | Game Collections | ChessBookie Game | Chessgames Challenge | Store | privacy notice | contact us
Copyright 2001-2019, Chessgames Services LLC