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Yifan Hou vs Magnus Carlsen
GRENKE Chess Classic (2017)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Apr-17-17
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  Sokrates: <moronovich: ... Carlsen recently got a girlfriend and it is not seldom "adventures" like this has their price.> A price many of us have paid once in a while through our lives :-)
Apr-17-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <Sokrates: <moronovich: ... Carlsen recently got a girlfriend and it is not seldom "adventures" like this has their price.> A price many of us have paid once in a while through our lives :-)>

Indeed, Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper might observe that Carlsen's moves are lacking in a certain "vital bodily fluidity".

Apr-17-17
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  Absentee: <botvinnik64: If Yifan were a man, none of this was would be said, much less considered seriously.>

Worse is said every day about XY-chromosomed players, but nobody starts crying bloody murder.

Apr-17-17  JimNorCal: "If Yifan were a man, none of this was would be said," Agree with other commenters, there is worthless kibitzing every single day...nearly all the top ten players are declared "all washed up" continuously.

"much less considered seriously."
Agree with this part :)

GM Hou is doing great, really has taken her game up a level. We can all admire her accomplishment and cheer her on!

Apr-17-17  SirRuthless: The fascist, sexist pigs oink and bleat to no effect.

The young woman is controlling the event into the first rest day. Magnus' press conference apologetics for almost getting blown off the board were a delight. They way the guys talk over Yifan and try to take her spotlight away in their angry, chauvinistic rage is a real joy to behold.

Apr-17-17  Monoceros: ah, Chessgames, never stop being as gross and disgusting as I expect from you...
Apr-17-17
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  ChessHigherCat: On the contrary, I think we're making a great concession to womankind by allowing her to move the Queen horizontally or vertically as far as she likes, while the King, the least mobile of all the pieces, is reduced to a mere power symbol. Is that chauvinism?
Apr-17-17  SirRuthless: Look at this shiny object over here while I try to beat you over the head with my false equivalence.
Apr-17-17
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  ChessHigherCat: I think I'll pass. Maybe you should try to get a real one.
Apr-17-17
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  Marmot PFL: Keep in mind that Hou at 23 is also the 2nd youngest player in the tournament.

I doubt she will win the tournament as she still has the black pieces against Vachier-Lagrave and Aronian but it's not impossible.

Apr-17-17
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  dunkenchess: Hou Yifan is pulling away. Nice.
Apr-17-17  AzingaBonzer: <Marmot PFL> MVL shouldn't be a huge issue; he's been having an off tournament so far. Aronian is a legitimate threat, of course, but I don't think you can claim he's a bigger threat than Caruana or Carlsen, both of whom Hou had no trouble with. Take into account her stellar form, her current lead in score, and the fact that the two <other> opponents she has are Naiditsch and Bluebaum, and I'd say Hou winning the tournament is a realistic possibility.
Apr-18-17
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  Sokrates: It's easy to say Hou should have continued the game, but after the 31st move, who on this planet would have dared challenging Carlsen in a position he, more than anyone, knows how to play?

And my thanks to <botvinnik64> for his post <Disgraceful display of sexism on this page ...>. Well spoken, sir!

Apr-18-17
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  Absentee: <Monoceros: ah, Chessgames, never stop being as gross and disgusting as I expect from you...>

Hey, check out 150 kibitzers 1 cup!

Apr-18-17
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  alexmagnus: If she were a man she wouldn't even play here. Or do you often see 2650 players who are not local matadors in tournaments of this level?

Unlike Judit Polgar, who deserved it, Hou so far lives off being a woman. But let's see if she can get in Polgar's shoes. Good results here but she already was rated and ranked much higher than now (2686 and 55 respectively were her peaks).

Apr-18-17  Ulhumbrus: Suppose that after 23...Rxb6 Yifan Hou needs her knight on d5 instead of her rook. In that case one way is 24 Ne1 heading for d5 via g2 and e3.
Apr-18-17
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  Richard Taylor: Yifan Hou's on a roll! Good play by her. I hope she wins the tournament.
Apr-18-17
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  Richard Taylor: Carlsen is past it. He is hobbling around and wearing glasses....He is a has been.
Apr-18-17  AzingaBonzer: <alexmagnus> We get it; you don't like Hou Yifan. No need to reiterate it every time she does well against your expectations.
Apr-18-17
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  alexmagnus: I never said I don't like her, and actually I very rarely write anythong about her, so I wonder where your perception comes from.
Apr-18-17
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  chancho: <anythong>... got it!
Apr-18-17
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  alexmagnus: Hehe, that was a hilarious typo.
Apr-18-17
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  Richard Taylor: <anythong> indicates he (<alexmagnus> who is is clearly a very virile and wonderful young man) gets the horn for Yifan and subconsciously imagines her in a thong in a sex movie. This is known as a Freudian slip....oooh, I said "slip"! .....indeed she is the best looking of the Super chessers playing for my money. Carlsen doesn't arouse me...Nor do any of the others. Yifan is a different kettle of fish...
Apr-20-17
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  beenthere240: Carlsen changed the prescription on his glasses -- and saw the way to victory for a change.
Apr-22-17
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  Richard Taylor: <blunderclap: I feel I need to clarify this a little bit. One shouldn't try to read any freudian references into this linguochemical conundrum. I meant it as a question where you imagine yourself to be working at the dictionary factory and they've told you to come up with a definition for this one. This doesn't exclude any sexual associations a priori, but it by no means limits the possibilities!>

Some fascinating ruminations.

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