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Yifan Hou vs Magnus Carlsen
GRENKE Chess Classic (2017)  ·  Sicilian Defense: Najdorf Variation (B90)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Apr-17-17
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  ChessHigherCat: I think I'll pass. Maybe you should try to get a real one.
Apr-17-17
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  Marmot PFL: Keep in mind that Hou at 23 is also the 2nd youngest player in the tournament.

I doubt she will win the tournament as she still has the black pieces against Vachier-Lagrave and Aronian but it's not impossible.

Apr-17-17
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  dunkenchess: Hou Yifan is pulling away. Nice.
Apr-17-17  AzingaBonzer: <Marmot PFL> MVL shouldn't be a huge issue; he's been having an off tournament so far. Aronian is a legitimate threat, of course, but I don't think you can claim he's a bigger threat than Caruana or Carlsen, both of whom Hou had no trouble with. Take into account her stellar form, her current lead in score, and the fact that the two <other> opponents she has are Naiditsch and Bluebaum, and I'd say Hou winning the tournament is a realistic possibility.
Apr-18-17  blunderclap: I think Hou's merely being polite in not winning all the games in her sleep. She knows how men are.
Apr-18-17
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  Sokrates: It's easy to say Hou should have continued the game, but after the 31st move, who on this planet would have dared challenging Carlsen in a position he, more than anyone, knows how to play?

And my thanks to <botvinnik64> for his post <Disgraceful display of sexism on this page ...>. Well spoken, sir!

Apr-18-17  blunderclap: <varishnakov: <botvinnik64>

If she were a man none of it would be said because she wouldn't have been invited to the tournament.>

Fascinating insight Sir. You are of course correct, as her low FIDE rating compared to that of many men would have made her largely insignificant.

Apr-18-17
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  Absentee: <Monoceros: ah, Chessgames, never stop being as gross and disgusting as I expect from you...>

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Apr-18-17
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  alexmagnus: If she were a man she wouldn't even play here. Or do you often see 2650 players who are not local matadors in tournaments of this level?

Unlike Judit Polgar, who deserved it, Hou so far lives off being a woman. But let's see if she can get in Polgar's shoes. Good results here but she already was rated and ranked much higher than now (2686 and 55 respectively were her peaks).

Apr-18-17  blunderclap: <Hou so far lives off being a woman>

You seem to be quite intimately acquainted with the details of Hou's o so easy life. Have you hacked her phone or something?

Or do you believe that life can be defined solely in terms of the rules of chess perhaps, and think that the only value of a chess player consists of how many people he or she can keep beneath them? What are you playing for, when you do that? And why precisely do you even bother to do it?

Apr-18-17  Ulhumbrus: Suppose that after 23...Rxb6 Yifan Hou needs her knight on d5 instead of her rook. In that case one way is 24 Ne1 heading for d5 via g2 and e3.
Apr-18-17
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  Richard Taylor: Yifan Hou's on a roll! Good play by her. I hope she wins the tournament.
Apr-18-17
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  Richard Taylor: Carlsen is past it. He is hobbling around and wearing glasses....He is a has been.
Apr-18-17  AzingaBonzer: <alexmagnus> We get it; you don't like Hou Yifan. No need to reiterate it every time she does well against your expectations.
Apr-18-17
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  alexmagnus: I never said I don't like her, and actually I very rarely write anythong about her, so I wonder where your perception comes from.
Apr-18-17
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  chancho: <anythong>... got it!
Apr-18-17  blunderclap: <<anythong>... got it!>

Anythong? Is that some kid's code language?

Apr-18-17
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  alexmagnus: Hehe, that was a hilarious typo.
Apr-18-17  blunderclap: <typo> Thanks for the info, I got slightly confused there:)
Apr-18-17
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  Richard Taylor: <anythong> indicates he (<alexmagnus> who is is clearly a very virile and wonderful young man) gets the horn for Yifan and subconsciously imagines her in a thong in a sex movie. This is known as a Freudian slip....oooh, I said "slip"! .....indeed she is the best looking of the Super chessers playing for my money. Carlsen doesn't arouse me...Nor do any of the others. Yifan is a different kettle of fish...
Apr-18-17  blunderclap: There's also such a thing as the freudian slap, but I'm not quite certain what it means..
Apr-18-17  blunderclap: Speaking if things of which I don't know what they mean, I've been struggling with a concept that I've invented. I've tried to understand it, but have sofar failed miserably, so I thought I'd might put it out there and see if any of you sages might be able to shed light on it. It's the notion of underwear dialectics.

Now I know what dialectics is supposed to mean and also have quite a coherent idea about what might constitute underwear (ranging from fig leafs and loin cloths to shape correcting technical marvels), but what happens when you pour these two concepts together remains somewhat obscure to me. Any linguistic chemist's input would be most appreciated.

Apr-18-17  blunderclap: I feel I need to clarify this a little bit. One shouldn't try to read any freudian references into this linguochemical conundrum. I meant it as a question where you imagine yourself to be working at the dictionary factory and they've told you to come up with a definition for this one. This doesn't exclude any sexual associations a priori, but it by no means limits the possibilities!
Apr-20-17
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  beenthere240: Carlsen changed the prescription on his glasses -- and saw the way to victory for a change.
Apr-22-17
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  Richard Taylor: <blunderclap: I feel I need to clarify this a little bit. One shouldn't try to read any freudian references into this linguochemical conundrum. I meant it as a question where you imagine yourself to be working at the dictionary factory and they've told you to come up with a definition for this one. This doesn't exclude any sexual associations a priori, but it by no means limits the possibilities!>

Some fascinating ruminations.

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