|May-13-17|| ||An Englishman: Good Evening: Ah, yes, the famous Marshall Gambit--devised by the American drawing master Frank Marshall to ensure a quick and easy draw.|
|May-13-17|| ||morfishine: <An Englishman> Please, Frank Marshall was not nor ever known as a "drawing master" (whatever that is). |
What books have you been reading? or better yet, what have you been smoking?
|May-13-17|| ||ChessHigherCat: Hi, <an Englishman>. Excuse my ignorance but where's the draw? 28...Rd8 looks forced, and then black wins the d pawn with equality?|
|May-13-17|| ||An Englishman: Good Morning: Not smoking, <morfishine>, drinking. But you had the right idea! <ChessHigherCat>, you will find that a strangely high percentage of Marshall Gambits end in draws at the GM level--presumably *not* what Marshall had in mind when he invented it. Between that and the Berlin Wall, you have two good reasons why so many players opt for 3.Bc4 nowadays.|
|May-13-17|| ||morfishine: <An Englishman> Ha Ha, yes of course, we know the Marshall Gambit is drawish, though tricky, but that doesn't mean its author is a "drawing master"|
Marshall is in fact known as one of the riskiest players ever, which caused him to lose many games. If anything, he's known as a "swindler" trying to save draws while on the run
|May-14-17|| ||scormus: <morfishine <an Englishman>> not a difference of opinion, I think, but a different nation's sense of humour? |
Something I find so amazing about the Marshall Counter Attack, in a humourous sort of way, is that when I first learnt it I thought it (9 .... d5, etc) might have been a move he tried without preparation in a pub (OK morf,bar) game because it looked like it would lead to a decisive and fun game ... but actually turned out to give a remarkably balanced game.
What I only learned much later was he spent a ridiculous amount of time preparing it beforehand as a shock weapon to play against the Spanish at top level. Then Capa spoilt it for him when he neutralised it OTB. Surely a moral somewhere ;)
|May-19-17|| ||moodini: <An Englishman> be careful, it seems that your comments may be taken literally, even if they are, in my opinion, clearly tongue-in-cheek.|
That is not to say that your tongue is really in your cheek, just that you were not entirely serious in your assertion that Marshall was a drawing master.
I never liked smileys but maybe this is a case where one would have helped our not-so-Anglophile American friend.