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Vladimir Kramnik vs Magnus Carlsen
Altibox Norway (2017), Stavanger NOR, rd 7, Jun-14
Italian Game: Classical Variation. Giuoco Pianissimo (C53)  ·  1-0
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Jun-14-17  peristilo: It seems 25...Qxf2 was the real problem for black. Correct was 25...Bxf2 and Qc3 next
Jun-14-17  MayonExpress: Carlsen on the decline. His mind maybe somewhere else. Focus!
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  ChessHigherCat: <peristilio> That's a tricky line. So 25...Bxf2 26. Kh2 Qc3 27. Qxg6 Qxe1 28. Bc3+ fxg6 29. Bxe1 Bxe1 30. Nxe1?
Jun-14-17  CountryGirl: Carlsen has an even-ish record against Kramnik. This Giuoco Piano is proving an obstacle for the 1...e5 crowd.
Jun-14-17  maviahb: Piano Lessons!
Jun-14-17  WorstPlayerEver: Pizzanissimo!
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  Sally Simpson: So far it's 9 Giuoco Piano's 7 draws and one win with each colour.

5 Lopez's, 1 Black win and 4 draw.s

Theory is regressing, we are going back to 1800's when the Lopez was classed as irregular. Soon it will be the Four Knights, the Vienna, Kings Gambits and the Philidor.

Oh Happy Days!


Smashing game between these two. Carlsen could have drawn out the rest of the tournament to lick his wounds but wanted to fight. Kramnik was a willing partner.

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  Plaidpawn: I'm still holding out for an Evan's Gambit.
Jun-15-17  alphamaster: In fact this game started as Giuoco Piano but later transferred to Ruy Lopez!
Jun-15-17  Ulhumbrus: 12 Bd3 places the bishop as in the game Tarrasch vs Alekhine, 1925 In that game Alekhine played eventually ...exd4 and answered the capture Nxd4 with ....Ne5. One question is to what extent Carlsen can manage to follow Alekhine's plan now.

Is 13 ...h6 necessary? 13...Nf4 occupies the f4 square at once.

One commentator - It could have been Svidler or Short or Jan Ten Geuzendam - said that 14...exd4 made a concession and that Black needed to follow it with some good move. Carlsen follows it with ...c5 which gives him a disadvantageous looking Benoni after d5. However Carlsen could have prepared this idea. Perhaps the idea is to play ...c4. If so, Kramnik does not wait for it.

18...Bd7 may be inexact. 18...c4 avoids getting the s5 pawn pinned. Although 19 Be3 attacks the bishop on a7, 19...Qc7 defends it.

If 22...Qc7 intends ...c5 Kramnik does not wait for it but begins an attack by 23 Bxh6. One commentator indicated that Carlsen had said that this was a blunder.

Jun-15-17  brass: How is this possible? This isn't checkmate at all. White's king is the last to move. Something doesn't add up.
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  beatgiant: <brass>
Welcome to the site.

Yes, it's not checkmate. Black resigned the game because he saw his position was hopeless.

The game would continue 40...Rh8 41. d7 Kg7 42. d8(Q) Rxd8 43. Rxd8 b2 44. Rd1. White has an extra rook and has prevented Black's pawn from queening.

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  RookFile: What a sweet win this must be for Kramnik!
Jun-15-17  dynamica:

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After move 21.b4...... 50/50

Jun-15-17  dynamica: Back to the Kramnik-Carlsen game: Kramnik played sharply, but Carlsen was fine until his 21th move. After 21.b4... he would have been fine with correct play however, and his further error on move 21....Qa7 he was simply lost, and Kramnik was up to the challenge
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  ajk68: Why not 33...Bg6, ?

I don't get it.

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  beatgiant: <ajk68>
33...Bg6 <34. Be3> Q moves 35. Bd4
Jun-15-17  sfm: Great fight!
Jun-15-17  sfm: <beatgiant: 33...Bg6 34. Be3, Q moves 35. Bd4> There's still 34.-,Qb2, covering d4.
Jun-15-17  sfm: <ajk68: Why not 33...Bg6> Maybe 34.d6. Black has many headaches, and needs to keep an an eye on f6. What does not work is 34.d6,Qd4 35.d7,Qxd7 36.Bf6,Qd6+ 37.e5
Jun-18-17  Clement Fraud: For black to find a viable plan in the dinosaur Giuoco Pianissimo is not easy. I think black misfired with the idea of 14... exd4 15... c5 & 16... b5. Surely the whole point behind 13... h6 was to prepare the e6 square for the Bishop: Eg. 14... Be6 (maybe) with the idea of 15... exd4 & 16... d5 (perhaps)?
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  ISeth: This kind of games should be in WCC matches where Giuoco Piano games can be so combinational . Superb game .
Jun-20-17  OBKing: I was yawning at the start of the game but after 23.Bxh6 it was game on!!! Awesome game
Jun-21-17  izimbra: Black would have kept near equality with <25...Bxf2+>, reserving the Q for the defense of the a1-h8 diagonal. Taking f2 with the Q drops a pawn and leads to other problems. Very accurate play here by Kramnik. Carlsen did not play poorly.
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  Lambda: <The game would continue 40...Rh8 41. d7 Kg7 42. d8(Q) Rxd8 43. Rxd8 b2 44. Rd1.>

Or a slightly more fun way of getting to the same position: 40... b2 41. d7 Rd6 42. d8(Q)+ Rxd8 43. Rxd8+ Kg7 44. Rd1.

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