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Vladimir Kramnik vs Vladimir Fedoseev
Dortmund (2017), Dortmund GER, rd 1, Jul-15
Caro-Kann Defense: Exchange Variation (B13)  ·  0-1


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Jul-15-17  Dirkster: Wow! Was 17.Ne3 a tactical blunder or did Kramnik have starry-eyed visions of a decisive king-side attack? Either way, it didn't quite work out well for him...
Jul-15-17  fisayo123: Great start by Fedoseev. Kramnik's performances against the Russian young generation continue to be rather dodgy.
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  whiteshark: Actually, only <18.Qh5?> was a blunder. With <18.Qxa4+> the game is still in balance.
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  Marmot PFL: Don't think 17 Ne3 is a mistake if white plays 18 Qxa4+ Bc6 19 Qa5 when everything is defended but 18 Qh5 looks like a miscalculation.
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  patzer2: After 18. Qxa4+ Bc6, Stockfish 8 indicates the equalizing line is 19. Nd5! Qd7 20. Qa5 Bxd5 20. Qxd5! Qxd5 21. Bxd5 =.

Following 18. Qxa4+ Bc6 19. Qa5?, Black has a near winning double attack that wins a piece with 19...Qxa5 20. Rxa5 Nb7 to (-1.54 @ 26 depth, Stockfish 8.)

I wonder if White meant to play 12. a4 bxa4 13. Bg5 = to , instead of 12. Bg5 Ne4!? with a difficult position just for the first player to equalize.

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  patzer2: The deflection (removing the guard) combination 18...Bxe3 would make for a good Monday puzzle.
Jul-16-17  drleper: An interesting line after 17...Bf4 is 18.Rc1 Bxg5 Bxe6

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Black is apparently OK after 19...Qf4, but it looks scary with the king still on the open e file.

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  luzhin: drleper, In your line, White has 19. Bb5+! (instead of Bxe6) and after 19...Nc6 20.Bxc6+ Bxc6 21.d5 wins back the piece. Looks about equal.
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  luzhin: It's also worth pointing out that in the game itself after 21.Re5, Black still had to be really careful. For example, after the obvious-looking 21...Qc6 22.d5 Qg6 23.Qf3 Black is lost, with no good defence to the threat of 24.Qa3+
Jul-17-17  Ulhumbrus: <luzhin: It's also worth pointing out that in the game itself after 21.Re5, Black still had to be really careful. For example, after the obvious-looking 21...Qc6 22.d5 Qg6 23.Qf3 Black is lost, with no good defence to the threat of 24.Qa3+> If this is so it suggests that Kramnik could have overlooked alternatives to 21...Qc6 such as 21...h6 in his calculations
Jul-24-17  BOSTER: <luzhin> what is not obvious why black should play 21...Qc6, but not for ex. Bd5 with overprotection pawn f7.
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