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Maxime Vachier-Lagrave vs Wesley So
Sinquefield Cup (2017), Saint Louis, MO USA, rd 1, Aug-02
Italian Game: Italian Variation (C50)  ·  1-0
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Aug-02-17
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  Marmot PFL: Didn't expect So to repeat this year and not sure MVL can stay on top long either. Time will tell.
Aug-02-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <offramp> was absolutely right about Kd1 being a bad move and Bh2 being a great one. Having revealed himself as the Prophet, he is now inviting all and sundry to join his new cult community just outside of Peoria, Illinois. Don't forget your mosquito repellent, Special-K bars and cyanide pills.
Aug-02-17
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  chancho: As the number of games against the elite have piled up, it appears as if they have finally begun to figure out Mister So.
Aug-02-17  fisayo123: <chanco> If figuring out means losing 2 games in 85 classical games then I'm all for it.
Aug-02-17  JPi: Weakening d6 square 14...c6 is the beginning of a dubious plan. But what else? 14...Bb5 or 14...Nh5?
Aug-02-17
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  wordfunph: good start by MVL 1-0!
Aug-02-17  Mirovsk: Anand X Nakamura ...draw with only a horse and a pawn out each...all other pieces on board...this should not be allowed....Ganzhou rules for draws should be applied here too...

no draw offers are allowed (only theoretical draws or with the agreement of the arbiter), - if the players draw by repetition within 15 moves they have to start the game again. If they draw by repetition in 15 moves again both players lose! (thanks cro777)

Aug-02-17  JPi: <chancho> has a point. Top 10 players are always all fighting for the first places. Since 2010 Carlsen still dominates but news comers at the very top as Caruana few years ago, then MVL or more recently So, they have to prove they can keep their leadership. In fact Aronian Kramnik and few others are waiting around and in good day can beat them. All these players searching weakness on the new comers chess. I can't imagine how terrific is this arena. You need to love Chess a lot to stem such pressure.
Aug-02-17  JimNorCal: <JPi>: I think you're right to approve of <Chancho's> observation. Not too many can beat Carlsen but they've learned how to steer away from danger and earn a draw. Similarly it appears they've taken the measure of GM So and are increasingly able to handle him as well.
Aug-02-17  JimNorCal: Both MC and So are super strong but both will need to take it up a level if they want to dominate the other 2700s.
Aug-02-17
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  jith1207: To be fair, So only had a couple of bad tournaments for his standards. I would not be so quick to judge his ability to keep up, as he also has been beating them consistently. I think it is just a matter of transition for him to find how and when to attack in such elite tournaments.
Aug-02-17
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  PhilFeeley: 33...fxe4?
Aug-03-17  Ningaskugon: Bad day for Wesley So. Kontrapilo talaga so Lagrave. Helosing record against the Frenchman is piling up!
Aug-03-17
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  Boomie: To his credit, GM So chatted with Maurice after the game. He seems to be taking the loss well. Perhaps his successes have taught him how to work through losses. There isn't enough time in a tournament to dwell on the last game.
Aug-03-17
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  SirRuthless: An isolated loss here or there is one thing but can you recover when the dam breaks and you go -2 or -3 in an event? I believe Wes has that toughness and he might have to show it in his next event or two if this is going to be his standard. Tough position but 32...f5 looked especially poor.
Aug-03-17  CountryGirl: Seems Maxime still has an edge over Wesley in their head to head record. MVL has certainly taken his game to a new level these days. Carlsen is more than ever just 'first among equals'.
Aug-03-17
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  SirRuthless: <Steve Skojec> That's number two in the world and winner of the last Wijk aan Zee, London Chess Classic, Sinquefield Cup and Chess Olympiad 2016 Board three gold medalist and team gold medalist. You laugh your insane laugh while he is serene is victory as well as defeat.He grows the game in his ancestral and chosen home nations.

Carlsen refuses to talk to foreign press after losses while Wesley does interviews after both wins and losses with foreign and domestic press.

You lose.

Aug-03-17  epistle: The best game of this tournament.
Aug-04-17  Nina Myers: <epistle: The best game of this tournament.> Let's hope for a better one

#85

Aug-04-17  arnaud1959: <Sir Ruthless : Carlsen refuses to talk to foreign press after losses while Wesley does interviews after both wins and losses with foreign and domestic press.> I would call this answering an overstatement with another overstatement : You cannot make a rule from a one time event happened in a particular situation.
Aug-04-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <arnaud1959: <Sir Ruthless : Carlsen refuses to talk to foreign press after losses while Wesley does interviews after both wins and losses with foreign and domestic press.> <I would call this answering an overstatement with another overstatement : You cannot make a rule from a one time event happened in a particular situation.>

I agree with your idea but it's called "overgeneralizing" in English.

Aug-04-17
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  SirRuthless: <ChessHigherCat>

Only if it were an isolated event but this behavior is commonplace with him.

Aug-05-17
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  perfidious: When <sirgormless> wishes to make an example of Carlsen, once is quite enough to stigmatise him for life, such is <sirgormless>' antipathy for his 'hero'.
Aug-05-17
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  ChessHigherCat: <Sir Ruthless> You urgently need a refill of ruth, this is getting to be an unhealthy obsession. What has Carlsen ever done to you? And who cares if he wants to talk to the press right after a game? Honestly, if you had just finished an exhausting match would you want to face all those same stupid repetitive questions, pushy crowds and blinding lights instead of getting a beer or something? He's basically just an athlete, not an ambassador. And contrary to the propaganda, the promoters depend on him, not vice-versa. They're a dime a dozen.
Aug-26-17
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  iking: <Boomie: To his credit, GM So chatted with Maurice after the game. He seems to be taking the loss well. Perhaps his successes have taught him how to work through losses. There isn't enough time in a tournament to dwell on the last game.> ... nice insight ...
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