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|Aug-04-17|| ||Bluegrey: I meant white|
|Aug-04-17|| ||devere: <dhotts: Only time could cause a Super GM to loose this drawn position....Is there any other explanation?>|
The position at the end is quite lost. As to the losing error 106.Kh3, I think it was more likely caused by a miscalculation than time pressure.
|Aug-04-17|| ||HeMateMe: Aronian didn't realize the black King was going to become mobile and decide the game on the queenside.|
|Aug-04-17|| ||luzhin: 33.Ke2?? seems an incredible blunder, as Aronian just missed 33...Bb4! But the idea behind Ke2 is clear: he wants to get his Knight to the ideal square d3. And after 33...Re8 (which perhaps Aronian expected) he would have played 34.Kf1 with an implicit draw offer.|
|Aug-04-17|| ||luzhin: And Caruana could have saved himself a lot of work with 40...g5+! with the point 41.Ke3 Bc5+ --but then we would have missed a fascinating ending.|
|Aug-04-17|| ||Check It Out: As someone else said, epic endgame!|
|Aug-04-17|| ||Bluegrey: 106.Kh3 was a mistake but the position was already lost by then|
|Aug-04-17|| ||Imran Iskandar: Perhaps someone with access to tablebases could tell us whether any of the positions after 74...Rxg4 are drawn or won for Black. |
Good outcome for Caruana (obviously), who could look forward to two Whites in his next two games.
|Aug-04-17|| ||Bluegrey: They are lost for white as are the endgames with rook exchange with double g pawns for white|
|Aug-04-17|| ||Bluegrey: But with perfect play from white its incredibly tough to win this. The position after blacks 74th is a mate in 51 but not very obvious how black wins|
|Aug-04-17|| ||Ulhumbrus: 33 Ke2 looks like a blunder, walking into the pin ...Re8. However as <Luzhin> has indicated, this is so only because 33...Bb4 changes the picture and with tempo by compelling White's rook to leave the e file.|
|Aug-04-17|| ||JohnBoy: <Bluegrey> - I very much enjoy the fact that for most of the endgame white cannot afford to swap rooks, despite the queening square for the black h pawn being of the wrong color. The double gs kill white!|
|Aug-04-17|| ||BwanaVa: What is the mating finish to this game?|
|Aug-04-17|| ||Nerwal: <What is the mating finish to this game?>|
|Aug-04-17|| ||JimNorCal: White is in check.
After K moves (either square), Rc2 and its mate unless black gives up R for B.
Most of us can win K+R vs K, no? :)
|Aug-04-17|| ||Mirovsk: Uau....more than six hours of fight.. as ferocious as chess can be...|
|Aug-04-17|| ||johnkr: Does appear to be a win for Black after 106 Kh3 Bd6! but curiously this position would not be won with Rooks off, because of the wrong-colored Bishop. I'd like to see a definitive analysis.|
|Aug-04-17|| ||BwanaVa: Nerwal and JimNorCal-Thank you!|
|Aug-05-17|| ||SuperPatzer77: <JimNorCal: White is in check.
After K moves (either square), Rc2 and its mate unless black gives up R for B....>|
<JimNorCal> It should say "Unless White gives up R for B" because White is forced to capture Black bishop after 111...Rc2. Actually, it's wrong color!
|Aug-05-17|| ||SirRuthless: Very nice conversion from Fabiano but LEvon just blundered a piece and gifted him the chance, still, Fabiano was able to produce enough pressure to incite the blunder so credit for an important win.|
|Aug-06-17|| ||Saniyat24: I saw the last part of this match live on Youtube...|
|Aug-11-17|| ||patzer2: <Ulhumbrus: 33 Ke2 looks like a blunder, walking into the pin ...Re8.> That's what I thought when I saw the strange plan of walking the King into an awkward self-pin.|
The computer apparently agrees. Instead of 33. Ke2? allowing 33...Bb4 -+ (-2.71 @ 36 depth), Stockfish 8 indicates White should consider holding the position with 33. Re2 = to ⩱ (-0.31 @ 35 depth.)
|Aug-11-17|| ||patzer2: Another good alternative appears to be 33. f4 f6 34. Nc6 = to ⩱ (-0.36 @ 39 depth, Stockfish 8)|
|Aug-20-17|| ||Pioneer27: At move 57, had Aronian exchanged Rooks, how would Black win? Black has a Rook pawn and a Bishop of the wrong color.|
|Aug-20-17|| ||Nerwal: <At move 57, had Aronian exchanged Rooks, how would Black win? Black has a Rook pawn and a Bishop of the wrong color.>|
Black stalemates the white king on h3 or h1 with his king and bishop, forcing White to play g4-g5. Black can then capture on g5 without drawing since White has another pawn on g3; without the g3 pawn it would be a draw.
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