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Bu Xiangzhi vs Magnus Carlsen
World Cup (2017), Tbilisi GEO, rd 3, Sep-10
Semi-Slav Defense: Stoltz Variation (D45)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Sep-10-17  CountryGirl: Bu-bye, Magnus!
Sep-10-17  The Kings Domain: End of the road for Maggie boy.
Sep-10-17  savagerules: Pathetic game for a must win by black. Instead of being a man and playing the benoni or benko or some irregular defense, instead he plays passively hoping that White self destructs. GOAT? LOLLL I don't know if he's even in the top ten at this point.
Sep-10-17
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  keypusher: <savagerules> Glad you've found a way to compensate for any inadequcies that may be troubling you with manly internet posts. But how exactly do you propose to force White to play a Benko or Benoni after 1.Nf3?

Assuming by "irregular defense" you mean something like ...g6, ...a6, ...b5 etc. that sounds to me rather like <play[ing] passively hoping that White self destructs>.

Sep-10-17
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  tuttifrutty: <instead he plays passively hoping that White self destructs.>

If there is a glimmer of hope while playing passively, there's a free plane ticket back home waiting...and he got what he deserved.

Attention all passengers...we are now boarding at gate 1 for flight 101 to Norway...coach passengers first please...

Sep-10-17
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  ambongtumbong: napaka LOOSE (maluwang ) daw Kuya Eddie.
Sep-11-17  Sally Simpson: Hi Tutti

"....there's a free plane ticket back home waiting....."

No. In this case there was not even that.

3. 3. 8.
All players shall pay their own cost of travel, accommodation and meals for the duration of their stay.

http://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/W...

The pampered goldfish went unpampered in this one and a lot of them played like fish out of water.

Hi K.P.

"But how exactly do you propose to force White to play a Benko or Benoni after 1.Nf3?"

Of course you cannot force White to do anything but Benoni/Benko type positions are reachable via 1.Nf3.

I use to like seeing 1.Nf3 it meant I can go for a Benoni/Benko/KID/Pirc without having to dig out all the f2-f4 lines OTB.

Here is a Hybrid Benko starting with 1.Nf3.

E Vladimirov vs Gufeld, 1981

This position from that game.


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Is on here 43 times. My own D.B. has over 100.


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The shock of the loss in the in the first game give Carlsen no time to recover mentally. In a match you take a time out or play yourself back in with a couple of draws. . In this format there is no such luxury.

Carlsen tried to get Bu involved in a messy middle game hand to hand fight but Bu stayed out of reach waiting for the risky move or plan that Carlsen would eventually have to go for. Then he pounced.

Sep-11-17  A.T PhoneHome: Surprises like Carlsen's exit are what make chess interesting. It is brilliant to watch him excel, but chess is about a lot more than one man.
Sep-11-17
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  ahmadov: No doubt Carlsen is one of the best players of chess history, but arrogance is punishable.
Sep-11-17  Sally Simpson: All great players have an arrogant air about them, it comes with the job.

But off board and away from microphones he seems cheerful, popular with the other players and is a young man enjoying life to the full.

He needs more time than most to get over a loss (if indeed we ever do) he, quite rightly, is more annoyed with himself than with his opponent.

Sep-11-17
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  john barleycorn: <Sally Simpson: All great players have an arrogant air about them, it comes with the job. ...>

Absolutely.

Ivanchuk, a great player for decades but what an arrogant arse he still is when he sees a microphone. Anand definitely a strong contender in that respect.

Sep-11-17
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  keypusher: <Hi K.P.

"But how exactly do you propose to force White to play a Benko or Benoni after 1.Nf3?"

Of course you cannot force White to do anything>

Thanks, Sally, appreciate the long reply but as far as my (rhetorical) question was concerned, you could have stopped right there.

Sep-11-17
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  cormier: propably 13...Qd7
Sep-12-17
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  tuttifrutty: <Hi Tutti

"....there's a free plane ticket back home waiting....."

No. In this case there was not even that.>

His exit fee is 16k so I consider it free...

Sep-13-17  Arconax: <tuttifrutti> :=, :=, :=
Sep-13-17  ex0duz: <Ivanchuk, a great player for decades but what an arrogant arse he still is when he sees a microphone. Anand definitely a strong contender in that respect.>

@barleycorn, what? When has Chucky ever said anything disrespectful or even something that made him look like an 'arrogant arse'? He seems like a nice guy from what i've seen of him over the years.

Anand, sure, everyones got their moments but usually he's also class act. I struggle to come up with a time when Vishy ever did/said something memorable, but he's a pretty boring guy to me, he's not one to get caught up in too many controversies lol

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