|Sep-13-17|| ||rajaonn: Bye Anish. Formal chess loses to a voracious vagabond, Mr Ivanchuk is look to beat the toppers in the tourney. The current Form he is , no next to anyone.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||Howard: How do you mean ? The mini-match ain't over with yet.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||john barleycorn: will Giri learn his lesson?|
|Sep-13-17|| ||disasterion: <Howard>: Giri had to win this game to stay in the competition.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||et1: After reaching move 40 in a completly won position it seems Ivanchuk got bored it not nervous or at least anxious and decided to draw as fast as he could and save energy for the next match.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||Sally Simpson: Devere reminds us all of the link between this game and H Wolf vs Rubinstein, 1907 |
Rubinstein was offered a draw to clinch first prize, he turned it down to force a perpetual.
When asked why he did not accept the draw offer clinching first prize. Rubinstein replied:
" 'With Wolf, I make a draw when I want to, not when he wants to!'"
I watched the whole of this game and that is the impression I got here.
Ivanchuk has a few what I would easy wins here. Easy in the sense I could win no matter who I was playing. Yet he chose a way I think only he saw.
'I only need a draw and that is what I am taking. A draw.'
Rubinstein and Ivanchuk tread the same chess path. I don't think I am being unkind if I say slightly flawed diamonds.
Can Ivanchuk control himself and win this. When he is on song then there is nobody who can touch him.
The word genius is tossed about like confetti. But this lad is a genuine chess genius.
Let's hope for the sake of chess he manages to hold it all together. With him in the candidates all bets are off.
|Sep-13-17|| ||et1: Sally Simpson - with him in the Candidates and a decent time control with increments all bets are off - and we are all hoping for that.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||tamar: Ivanchuk looked frazzled after the game, and has had extremely hard games. Now 48, I hope he can do it, finally on a big stage.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||MissScarlett: Are you hoping for a different time control? Or do you know there will be one?|
|Sep-13-17|| ||et1: I hope there will be increment. Do you remember any important tournament this century without increment except London 2013 ?|
|Sep-13-17|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Tamar,
"finally on a big stage." I'll add 'yet again.' Ivanchuk has a history of being on the big stage.
The time control will be the same for everyone, Ivanchuk is the current Rapid World Champion. He will cope.
The main trouble is you do not know what Ivanchuk is turning up. Him or his twin brother the draughts player.
Giri had no idea which one he was playing till move 22 when the Knight planted it's felt tipped ass on d4.
"OOPS! The chess playing Ivanchuk has turned up today. "
Giri left the hall for a few minutes after that, that was him cancelling his hotel room, he had booked for the duration but tomorrow he flies home.
Giri might stick around, there is a very slim chance Ivanchuk may be told to leave the tournament.
|Sep-13-17|| ||et1: looooool !!! :) !|
|Sep-13-17|| ||et1: Anyway I think it is completely different to have 1h 30m for 40 moves and the same time plus 30 seconds - it is so much easier. And probably somebody who is such a deep thinker as Ivanchuk feels it more.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||MissScarlett: The 2013 Candidates' time control was 2 hours for forty moves, then 60 minutes for the next twenty, then 15 minutes plus 30 seconds per move for the rest of the game.|
The 2016 Candidates' had was one hour 40 minutes for forty moves, 50 minutes for the next twenty, and 15 minutes for the rest of the game, plus 30 seconds for every move.
The same holds for the 2018 Candidates. I haven't managed to find the official regulations for the 2014 Candidates.
|Sep-13-17|| ||Marmot PFL: Many players would look at the weak pawn on d6 and think black was lost or at least much worse but Ivanchuk was on his game. Computer didn't like 11 Re1 which looks a natural move, why was that? If the look was still on f1 than Ne5 12. b3 c5 13 Ne2 ^ Nf4 give white a great position but with the R on e1 13 Ne2 runs into Bg4 and white doesn't have f3. So after 13 Nf3 Neg4 black has solved his problems and soon even takes the advantage. Later Black could have won in several ways but lets the youngster draw so as not to discourage him too much.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||Nerwal: I do not understand Giri's chess. In a must-win situation you have to play 19. f4 even if you don't like it.|
|Sep-13-17|| ||ChessHigherCat: <Nerwal: I do not understand Giri's chess. In a must-win situation you have to play 19. f4 even if you don't like it.>|
But Giri just played 18. f3 to block Bg4. If he now plays 19. f4 black will play Bg4 again, which he obviously didn't want. What's so great about 19. f4?
|Sep-13-17|| ||Sally Simpson: Hi Nerwal,
Giri's plan, as Marmon says was to lay siege to the backward d6 pawn.
He had one chance to take it.
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But 18.Qxd6 lost a piece to 18...Bxc3.
Instead Girt played 18.Nd5 offering his a2 pawn. If Ivanchuk took it and after Bxg7 Qxd2 Rxd2 Kxg7 White has Nd5 to c7 winning the exchange.
Giri shot his bolt with that trap. Ivanchuk chopped wood including taking the Knight on d5 forcing White to take back with a pawn which blocked the d6 pawn.
Ivanchuk was left with a god Knight v bad Bishop.
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Here Giri played 23.f4 when 23 b4 undermining the Knight was a better choice to create something. Karjakin did not give him a second chance and played 23...a5.
|Sep-13-17|| ||AylerKupp: <Sally Simpson> Karjakin? I think that maybe you've been posting on this site too much!|
|Sep-13-17|| ||Tartalacreme: A Giri vs Ivanchuk, 2013|
Giri played 9. a4 in a previous game.
|Sep-14-17|| ||FSR: <Sally Simpson: . . . Ivanchuk was left with a god Knight v bad Bishop.>|
I'm sure you meant <good Knight>, although that knight is pretty God-like.
|Sep-14-17|| ||not not: Giri's immortal!|
|Sep-14-17|| ||john barleycorn: Giri, Nakamura and So are really the ones producing *immortal* games and involuntary slapstick. But they find themselves at the wrong end of the game or joke.|
|Sep-14-17|| ||Sally Simpson: :)
Correct. It seems all I have been typing for the last 10 days is Karjakin & Carlsen like they are the only two players on the planet.
Yes a God Knight, it's a new chess term I am inventing. Any such Knight firmly entrenched on an outposts is now to be called an 'Epona Knight.'
Epona, as everyone knows, was the Roman God of Horses.