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Levon Aronian vs Ding Liren
World Cup (2017), Tbilisi GEO, rd 7, Sep-25
English Opening: Agincourt Defense. Catalan Defense Accepted (A13)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Sep-25-17  Ulhumbrus: Black's N obstructs White's bishop on the long diagonal but also Black's heavy pieces on the d file. This suggests d4. One idea is 19 a6 b6 20 Nb5 supporting the thrust d4. Following 19 Nxd5 the game may fizzle out if Black can defend his queen side eg after 20...c4
Sep-25-17
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  Mateo: 20.d4 was nice. The point is to win the d pawn. 20.Bh3 Rc7 is useless. After 20...cxd4, only now 21.Bh3 Rc7 22.Rxc7 Qxc7 and you can catch the d5 pawn. However I don't have the feeling that White has anything big here.
Sep-25-17  Ulhumbrus: 20...cxd4 instead of 20...c4 may or may not be a losing mistake. It remains to be seen whether Aronian plays 21 a6 and gets enough of a queen side attack to win the game.
Sep-25-17
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  Mateo: Well, that's was not the point for Aronian... 21.Rc2!? is much more sophisticated.
Sep-25-17
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  offramp: What's the point of a queenside attack? There's nothing there.
Sep-25-17
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  Mateo: I don't see Black losing this one. The main point is the opposite coulour Bishops.
Sep-25-17
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  offramp: The bish on h3 is very awkward for Black. It controls c8.
Sep-25-17
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  vonKrolock: Without Rooks, more drawish
Sep-25-17
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  offramp: Chess without rooks needs no books.
Sep-25-17  BOSTER: Now white has the pass pawn d3, but blocker bishop d8 is already here.
Sep-25-17
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  vonKrolock: "Give me the g1-h7 diagonal, and I'll give You a PP" - thought Ding
Sep-25-17  Imran Iskandar: Drawn. Hope Ding wins tomorrow.
Sep-25-17
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  vonKrolock: erratum: g1-a7
Sep-25-17
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  vonKrolock: Qe4 - "Levon calling" (for peace)
Sep-25-17
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  offramp: Both these players must be royally sick of Tbilisi by now. Aronian is near home, and can feast on his beloved khash every night if he wants to. But poor Ding can't get hold of his chicken feet and grits for any money. There's only one Chinese restaurant in Tbilisi and Ding feel,out with them on day 1.
Sep-25-17  Ulhumbrus: The game has fizzled out. It has probably occurred to Aronian that in order to preserve winning chances he had to avoid too many exchanges of pieces eg 22 Bh3 ( instead of 22 Rac1) which allows 22...Rc7, or 25 Bg2 which allows 25...Rc8.
Sep-25-17
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  offramp: WHite had a asimple winning plan.
Bc4 followed by d3 to d4 to d5 to d6 to d7 to d8 equals queen check and then mate.
Sep-25-17
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  keypusher: < offramp: WHite had a asimple winning plan. Bc4 followed by d3 to d4 to d5 to d6 to d7 to d8 equals queen check and then mate.>

Your prophecy is halfway fulfilled.

Sep-25-17
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  WorstPlayerEver: Hasta otro pote h˙medo.
Sep-25-17  AndrewMD: I wonder if the other chinese GM are still there in Georgia with Ding Liren as seconds.
Sep-25-17
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: Very well, 8.Qd3 has occurred before (apparently, the TN is 10.Qb3), and it has done well for White, but what does the move do to improve White's game?
Sep-25-17
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  offramp: <AndrewMD: I wonder if the other chinese GM are still there in Georgia with Ding Liren as seconds.>

There is only one Chinese restaurant in Tblisi: Madame Lee's.

Ding managed to alienate himself from the entire establishment on day 1.

There was an argument, in Mandarin, about how long the Great Wall Of China was.

Ding Liren said it was about 4000 Km. Madame Lee said it was about 5000 Km, and there was a bit of a fight. You know, one of those flying fists things.

The Russians were laughing!

Sep-25-17  ex0duz: <AndrewMD: I wonder if the other chinese GM are still there in Georgia with Ding Liren as seconds.>

No. Ding said in one of his interviews that all the other chinese players had already gone home, and that he was only there with the trainer/leader of chinese national team Xu Jun(?).

Even if they were there, i really doubt they act as seconds when they are rivals first and foremost. Like why would Wei Yi be Dings second when they are rivals? If i do opening prep and find nice lines, i would keep it for myself, because i doubt Ding would be paying them money like someone like Anand or other SuperGM's would be paying other SuperGM's to be seconds..

Maybe not SuperGM's like Wei Yi or Yu Yangyi, but maybe some young 2500~ 'no name' players would be seconds instead.

Sep-25-17  ajile: <offramp:
There is only one Chinese restaurant in Tblisi: Madame Lee's.

Ding managed to alienate himself from the entire establishment on day 1.

There was an argument, in Mandarin, about how long the Great Wall Of China was.

Ding Liren said it was about 4000 Km. Madame Lee said it was about 5000 Km, and there was a bit of a fight. You know, one of those flying fists things.

The Russians were laughing!>

You should be writing dialog for the new Star Drek Discovery series. I saw the show last night and was severely underwhelmed.

Sep-25-17
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  Richard Taylor: <offramp: Both these players must be royally sick of Tbilisi by now. Aronian is near home, and can feast on his beloved khash every night if he wants to. But poor Ding can't get hold of his chicken feet and grits for any money. There's only one Chinese restaurant in Tbilisi and Ding feel,out with them on day 1.>

But Aronian likes Chinese food (to the mortification and endless wailing and winging of his wife, who also decries his gambling and boozing) while Ding loves "Russian food"...although indeed he secretly consumes grits late at night when he feels guilty...

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