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Ding Liren vs Magnus Carlsen
Champions Showdown: Carlsen - Ding (Blitz G/10) (2017), St. Louis, MO USA, rd 2, Nov-13
King's Indian Attack: Double Fianchetto (A07)  ·  0-1
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Nov-13-17  SChesshevsky: The opening header says King's Indian Attack. Is this really a King's Indian Attack?

Carlsen's win in game 3 looked more like a King's Indian Attack I thought.

Nov-14-17
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  Gilmoy: After <16.c5 Qc7>, surely it isn't a KIA, with the pawn still on e3.


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After Carlsen calmly allows (even entices) <17.e4 b6 18.e5 Nd7> ... maybe it is, by transposition.


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And after <19.b4 a5!> we have a <Delayed Harrwitz>:


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Advantage goes to whomever still has a Rook on a.

Nov-15-17
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  Domdaniel: It's not a King's Indian Attack, after White's 4th move, d4. At that point it's either a Reversed Gruenfeld or a type of Catalan.

Either way, it's a massacre.

Nov-20-17
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  lost in space: yupps, after move 4 it could transpose into a reversed Neo-Grünfeld. But what happened is more a queen pawns game or an uncommon opening.

And after move 9 it could also be a strange variation of the Grünfeld.

Maybe it is the new Massacre opening.

Nov-21-17
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  lost in space: Most probably it is an English opening with b3 and with d4

Could come from such a line:

1. c4 Nf6 2. g3 g6 3. Bg2 Bg7 4. Nf3 c6 5. 0-0 d5 6. d4 0-0 7. b3 Bf5 8. e3 Nbd7 9. Bb2 Ne4 10. Nfd2

Nov-21-17
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  Domdaniel: <lost in space> After another look, I agree with your previous post. The opening line wanders around and transposes between different variations, but I think it ends up as a Gruenfeld. Specifically, the line where Black plays ...c6 and ...d5 -- sometimes called the Slav-Gruenfeld, ECO code D78-79 if I remember correctly. Karpov and Baburin are among the prominent players on the white side.
Nov-21-17  Boomie: Dare I say you can also get there using gulp Larsen's Opening.

1. b3 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. Bb2 g6 4. g3 Bg7 5. Bg2 O-O 6. O-O c6 7. c4 Bf5 8. d4 Nbd7 9. e3 Ne4

Forcing through this line with the OE (Opening Explorer) up to the TN 10. Nfd2, the word "Reti" figures prominently along the way. Truth be told, we don't really have a name for this puppy.

Nov-23-17
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  Domdaniel: Au contraire, mon ami! -- We have many names for this puppy.

The question, I guess, is whether the puppy itself responds to any of them.

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