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AlphaZero (Computer) vs Stockfish (Computer)
AlphaZero - Stockfish (2017), London ENG, Dec-04
Queen's Indian Defense: Classical Variation. Polugayevsky Gambit (E17)  ·  1-0


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Dec-07-17  rodrigoporto: Skynet, is that you ?!
Dec-07-17  cunctatorg: Superb play from the real World Champion!!!!!!

Fick it.........

Dec-07-17  diagon: If AlphaZero learned by itself from scratch how to evaluate positions then it's equivalent to a human learning chess from knowing just how to move pieces to becoming the absolute world champion of chess in just 4 hours.
Dec-07-17  diagon: And actually not just to evaluate but also plan a game strategy.
Dec-08-17  Cheapo by the Dozen: This is the second AlphaZero game I've looked at, and in both cases AlphaZero seemed to put high value on space.
Dec-08-17  talwnbe4: 19..Ne8 instead of 19..Nb7 is the move preferred by standard stockfish. 19..Nb7 places the knights offside
Dec-09-17  Monocle: <rodrigoporto> Is it really necessary to make the same inane comment on every AlphaZero game?
Dec-09-17  JPi: <talwnbe4: 19..Ne8 instead of 19..Nb7 is the move preferred by standard stockfish. 19..Nb7 places the knights offside> I prefer 19...Ne8 too By the way what was the "idea" on 20...Qxc4? 21.BxN then 22.Qxd7 ? Black is still pawn up to compensate 7 rank pressure. I understand 2B are stronger than 2N+p but how much is this advantage?
Dec-24-17  Ulhumbrus: 11...Bf6 allows 12 Nd6.

35...f5 returns one of the pawns and 37...Rf8 returns the other

Dec-26-17  50movesaheadofyou: Black stinks in the endgame. I loved white's creep-up of the King from g1-g5. One look at the board after <52.Kg5!> and it's wicked white domination. The Rooks had the center, the King the right wing, it's the real resign point. All I saw next was a vacuum sweep of the black pawns.

Black played well but the endgame was no fight. And 16... Bc4 giving white the 2 Bishops is a strange move a human wouldn't play. I almost call it bizarre if it didn't free the Nb8. Why not 16...Bb7, frees the Knight with a healthy B on b7.

Dec-26-17  50movesaheadofyou: On 16...Bb7,

With one continuation 17.Bf4 Ne8 18.Nb5 d5 19.Be5 Qd8 20.Nd4 Nd7 and black looks ok. But unclear of course, I'm not Stockfish.

Even ...Ne8 seems ok if you don't mind being tight with +2 pawns 16...Ne8 17.Ne4 Qd8 18.Nd6 Nxd6 19.Qxd6 Qf6 20.Bf4 Bc4 21.Qxf6 gxf6 22.Bd6 Rc8 23.b3 Be6 24.Rad1 and again don't know who's better but wouldn't mind playing the blacks.

Apr-16-18  bahduggi: Pawns? You want to see my Pawns? We don't need no stinkin pawns...
Jul-01-18  PJs Studio: Alphazero has an amazing ability to sac pawns for open diagonals and files. Over and over. Space isn’t the only feature of its play (it is a HUGE feature of course!) - It is dynamic, aggressive and moves “fearlessly” for tempos. Reminds me of Kasparov at the height of his powers when facing mere Super GMs.
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