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Fabiano Caruana vs Gawain Jones
Tata Steel Masters (2018), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 2, Jan-14
King's Indian Defense: Makagonov Variation (E71)  ·  1/2-1/2
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Jan-14-18
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  Gypsy: In view of that, Black will probably keep the rooks on by blockading the h-pawn by Rh7.
Jan-14-18
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  ChessHigherCat: The only draw I see is if white makes some stupid blunder like a5
Jan-14-18
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  Stonehenge: Perhaps he will make an intelligent blunder.
Jan-14-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Re4 and what? White can advance the pawn to a6 and then play Rb7. It's resignation time.
Jan-14-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Are you implying that stupid blunder is pleonastically redundant?
Jan-14-18
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  Stonehenge: Yes, I think so.
Jan-14-18
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  Gypsy: Have fun guys. (Got to go; will check the ending later.)
Jan-14-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Affirmatively yes! Now if Ra5 Rg5 and Kf5 loses the rook with Rg5+, so black plays Ra6+ first and it looks kind of tricky but I think'll white will win victoriously
Jan-14-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Bye Gypsy! Re7+ followed by Rxa7 is a win, isn't it?
Jan-14-18
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  ChessHigherCat: I was just going to say Stockfish gives 3 winning moves but the one I would have chosen, a5, isn't one of them.
Jan-14-18
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  Taxman: My very quick reaction to this position is that the Black king is probably near enough to the a - file to allow a draw.
Jan-14-18  Marmot PFL: Wonder which game will end last, this or Wei Yi-Svidler.
Jan-14-18
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: All rook endings are drawn.
Jan-14-18  Marmot PFL: Good game, Fabi pushed hard but Jones never cracked.
Jan-14-18
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: I think the draw was agreed after white played 69 Ka8.
Jan-14-18
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  ChessHigherCat: Before a5, SF gave three different +0.75 moves for white, and then it fell to 0.00 across the board after a5. +0.75 is a pretty strong advantage, isn't it?
Jan-14-18  Robyn Hode: The wrong pawns for Fabi in a rook endgame, the a and h pawns.
Jan-14-18  JimNorCal: Cool defense by Jones.
You know that the super GMs will be targeting him. So far he is showing stubborn resistance!
Jan-14-18
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  HeMateMe: nice draw. did Fabs miss a win?
Jan-14-18
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  Gregor Samsa Mendel: <CHC>--SF rates advantages of 0.5 to 1.0 as "slightly better" for the player with the advantage, which to me means that while the advantage is definite, it is not quite enough to win.

You may have noticed, looking at the SF evaluations in this endgame, and the Yi-Svidler endgame from the same round, that SF could use a little more work on its evaluation of endgames. Not that I could provide any help there.

Jan-14-18  Clement Fraud: My goodness - at the London Classic in December we had Adams vs Nakamura, 2017 clashing in a rare Dragon Sicilian; and here Gawain Jones chances his arm with a King's Indian against the mighty Fabiano Caruana... and gets a draw!!!

It could be argued that Fabiano played too many pawn moves in the opening (5.h3, 8.g4 & 9.f3); but it's still an incredible achievement from Mr Jones.

Jan-14-18
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  ChessHigherCat: <GSM> Thanks for the explanations! I have noticed that the evaluations are pretty arbitrary in end games, but I think that what the sudden drop to 0.00 in this case might be due to identifying the position in the tablebase, since it was so simple. Jones certainly did a great job defending but I really think white should have one starting from the position on move 51 or so. Caruana was down to O:01 on the clock or I'm sure he would have found the win. Stockfish was giving high evaluations but, as you say, end games aren't its strong point.
Jan-15-18  Monocle: <Clement Fraud: It could be argued that Fabiano played too many pawn moves in the opening (5.h3, 8.g4 & 9.f3)>

This is a well-established system against the King's Indian. The idea of h3/g4 is to inhibit black's ...f5 advance. It's a closed position, so losing some time on a few pawn moves to keep Black cramped is not very important.

The advice against pawn moves in the opening is mostly aimed at beginners faffing around in some open game like the Giuoco Piano when they should be developing pieces.

Jan-15-18
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  perfidious: On the ending with two rook pawns, qv the famous encounter Botvinnik vs Fischer, 1962.
Jan-15-18  Marmot PFL: The announcer was skeptical of black's 9...h5 also, but Jones defended it in the interview.
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