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|Jan-27-18|| ||Kapmigs: a pawn is a pawn is a pawn thank you|
|Jan-27-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: <Offramp> and I had it all figured out in the first couple posts!|
<Technical draw> Some lady actually said that to me when I was a little kid at Turkey Run State Park: That water sure is wet, ain't it?
|Jan-27-18|| ||zanzibar: <TD> but then again, dry water is, well, dry.|
<Carter explained that the substance became known as “dry water” because it consists of 95 percent water and yet is a dry powder.>
|Jan-27-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: I made my first million when I was 9 selling dehydrated water at my lemonade stand. You can fill a whole semi-truck with the stuff in seconds.|
|Jan-27-18|| ||chancho: Mister Efficient strikes again!|
|Jan-27-18|| ||thegoodanarchist: < keypusher: Another rooks and opposite-color bishops ending. I’ll be amazed if MC manages to win this one.>|
I was already amazed by Carlsen's body of work in chess, before today's game.
But this was still a fine, impressive win.
|Jan-27-18|| ||faulty: What I find amazing is that when I look at the position after, say, move 32, I wonder what can be done in order to lose it. yet the game proceeds and somehow quite naturally the game ends 1-0. then I understand again that I hardly understand chess at all :(|
|Jan-27-18|| ||Mirovsk: <faulty: What I find amazing is that when I look at the position after, say, move 32, I wonder what can be done in order to lose it. yet the game proceeds and somehow quite naturally the game ends 1-0. then I understand again that I hardly understand chess at all>|
precisely.....typical Carlsen this one...from the tiniest advantage...victory!!
|Jan-27-18|| ||keypusher: Well, color me amazed.|
|Jan-27-18|| ||BOSTER: <faulty:What I find amazing >.
Believe me, if Carlsen had black pieces in such pos, the game'll be draw.|
|Jan-27-18|| ||OhioChessFan: < black is playing without a king> |
<Dom: A good way not to get checkmated.>
On the other hand, it's really hard to gain the opposition.
|Jan-27-18|| ||OhioChessFan: <CHC: I made my first million when I was 9 selling dehydrated water at my lemonade stand. You can fill a whole semi-truck with the stuff in seconds.>|
I invented powdered water, but couldn't figure out what to add to it.
|Jan-27-18|| ||faulty: <BOSTER> Are You sure that Matlakov would have drawn? I'm already not...|
|Jan-27-18|| ||OhioChessFan: I'm with <faulty>, eg, Believe me, if Carlsen has either side in such a position, he'll win.|
|Jan-27-18|| ||zanzibar: Sometimes Carlsen plays like dry water, managing to get water out of stone in the end.|
|Jan-27-18|| ||JPi: It's amazing how far has done this double pawn! Yet Black pieces have lost their way under mirages of an easy draws.|
|Jan-27-18|| ||technical draw: <faulty> <then I understand again that I hardly understand chess at all :(>|
I have been playing "chess" for 50 years and still don't understand it. (chess is in scare quotes because maybe I haven't been playing chess at all.)
|Jan-27-18|| ||Gypsy: <<faulty: What I find amazing is that when I look at the position after, say, move 32, I wonder what can be done in order to lose it. yet the game proceeds and somehow quite naturally the game ends 1-0. then I understand again that I hardly understand chess at all>|
Black magic at work in winning this endgame.
|Jan-27-18|| ||faulty: Black can take consolation in playing the longest move ever 52... Bh1 to a8|
|Jan-27-18|| ||perfidious: One suspects that 52....Ba8 offered Matlakov cold comfort.|
|Jan-28-18|| ||Ulhumbrus: In the final position White's king and rook cover the square c6 twice so that black would not be able to take the c6 pawn even if his rook and bishop were to have c6 covered twice. This suggests that this situation counts as a potential threat on the part of White, a potential threat which Black has to answer if he is to draw.|
This suggests that in the position after 55 Rg3 the move 56 Rc3 counts as a threat and the move 55...Bh1 does not answer the threat. 55...Rc2 seems necessary in order to hold up the advance c5-c6. However even then White's king covers the square c6 whereas Black's king does not. White's rook therefore threatens to cover c6 again so as to support the advance c5-c6.
This suggests that if White's king heads for c6 and prepares to cover the square this counts as a threat which Black's king has to answer by also covering c6 or else White's king has to be harassed and driven away from his threat to cover c6.
This suggests that 32...Kf6?! is a questionable move and that 32...Kd5 is better, so as to cover the c6 square.
|Jan-29-18|| ||yurikvelo: https://pastebin.com/4b3imESu
|Feb-03-18|| ||Ulhumbrus: Instead of 15..Ne4 one justification for 15...0-0 first is that on 16 Bxf6 gxf6 although Black's king side pawn structure is shattered, White's queen pawn structure is shattered as well.|
|Mar-01-18|| ||ajk68: <This suggests that 32...Kf6?! is a questionable move and that 32...Kd5 is better, so as to cover the c6 square.>|
The silicon monster disagrees...
1) +0.44 (48 ply) 32...Kf6 33.Ba3 b5 34.Ra7 Rc6 35.axb5 axb5 36.Rb7 Re6 37.Rxb5 Re2 38.Bd6 Bxc2 39.Rb4 Ke6 40.Rd4 Bf5+ 41.Kb3 Re4 42.Rxe4+ Bxe4 43.Ba3 Bd3 44.c4 Ke5 45.Kb4 Be2 46.Kb5 Bd3 47.Kc5 Ke4 48.Bb2 Be2 49.Bf6 Bd3 50.Bc3 Be2 51.Kb4 Bd3 52.Bf6 Bf1 53.Kb5 Bd3 54.Bb2 Be2 55.Kc5 Bd3 56.Kb4 Be2
2) +0.63 (47 ply) 32...Kd5 33.Bf2 Kc6 34.Bg3 a5 35.Re5 Bg6 36.Rxa5 Rd8 37.Kb3 Rd1 38.c4 Rb1+ 39.Kc3 Rc1 40.Ra8 Rxc2+ 41.Kb3 Rc1 42.Rc8+ Kd7 43.Rc7+ Ke6 44.a5 Be4 45.Rc5 Bd3 46.Bc7 Kf7 47.Kb4 Ke6 48.Bf4 Rc2 49.Bg3 Kf7 50.Rc7+ Ke6 51.Kb5 Be4 52.Rg7 h5 53.Rg5 Bc6+ 54.Kc5 h4 55.Bxh4 Rxh2 56.Bg3 Ra2 57.Bc7 Be4 58.Rg4 Bc6 59.Rd4 Re2 60.Rf4
|Mar-01-18|| ||ajk68: <Ulhumbrus>, I liked your thinking about the problem in strategic terms. I ran the analysis above to check.|
The problem is a bit later in the game with 43...Kg4. It was there that black needed to retreat to the sixth rank. White would have had an small advantage, but it likely would have devolved to an opposite-colored bishop endgame.
Again later, 51...Kh4?? repeats the same mistake of not getting back for defense. However at that point, the game is already lost.
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