< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 4 OF 4 ·
|Apr-20-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: It's amazing how not a single iota of offramp's prophesy has come to pass. I think we need to appoint another high priest to guard the Dead Sea scrolls.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||not not: sacrificing bishop or knight for a pawn and exchaning remaining pawns is safe draw for either player.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||BOSTER: King has to play active role-Kf5.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||not not: I would journey knight to c2 and try to exchange pawns and sac knight itself. rook and bishop cant beat rook or mate the king|
|Apr-20-18|| ||Mateo: 40.Rxh4 doesn't help. 40...Nd5 41.Re4 Ra3, it's still a draw.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||not not: rooks swap and black winning!|
|Apr-20-18|| ||Mateo: 41.Rxh4 does not win a pawn. 41...Nc4 42.Re4+ Kd5. 43.Kf4 (to get out of the pinn) Nxe3 44.Rxe3 Rc4+, draw again.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||truepacifism: It's a draw.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||BOSTER: Draw, even Carlsen is not very happy.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: Hey, that's a draw??? What's wrong with those guys?|
|Apr-20-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: Can we see Topalov puleeeeeeeeeeeez?|
|Apr-20-18|| ||The Kings Domain: Too bad, I was looking forward to Navara winning this, he had a promising game.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||Pedro Fernandez: I thought Carlsen won today but I was wrong.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||me to play: Magnus is looking like
he wants to tunnel out of the post-game conference.
|Apr-20-18|| ||Ulhumbrus: 9...Bxc5?! concedes the bishop pair. This suggests 9...Nxc5.|
12 Nd4 offers a pawn on e5. Navara declines the offer.
15 Nxc6?! moves the knight a third time to exchange it for a knight moved twice and strengthens Black's centre. This reduces any positional advantage which White may have on account of the bishop pair.
18 b4?! weakens the c4 square. Now Navara may be able to equalize at least by playing his knight to c4, even if this loses a pawn
Is 18...f6 necessary? On 18...Nb6! 19 Rc1 Nc4 one way for White to risk losing is 20 Qxd8 Rfxd8 21 Rxc4 Bd3 forking the rooks
If 21 Bd3 allows Black to play the advance ...d4 this suggests 21 fxe5 at once eg 21...Qg5 22 Bf3.
|Apr-20-18|| ||AylerKupp: <me to play> Yes. At one point, after Navara had been talking continuosly for several minutes, the camera panned back and showed Carlsen with his head tilted and supported by his hand, seemingly sleep. Can't say that I blame him.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||John Abraham: Magnus "why must i draw against this idiot" Carlsen|
|Apr-20-18|| ||Richard Taylor: Well it is obvious that he was not very impressive here. Carlsen never says much of much interest in any case. Navara is an interesting person though and an innovative and talented player. Carlsen hasn't looked good lately.|
|Apr-20-18|| ||beenthere240: Carlsen buffaloed by the Caro-Kann|
|Apr-20-18|| ||Clement Fraud: I don't possess any computer software to calculate variations with, but if 26.Qh3 was truly the best move that white had available - then Carlsen's position should have been lost at that point. MC deserves credit for holding together a lost position.|
I had often wondered how the manoeuvre Nd2-b3 would work out for white against the advance Caro Kann... and now I know to leave it alone.
|Apr-20-18|| ||ChessHigherCat: <Clement Fraud> You should become a premium member for chicken feed and then you can push the "engine" button at any point when you're playing through the game and even set up different moves on the board (no I don't get a commission, I'm just saying...).|
Anyway, I thought Qh3 looked horrible, too, and was surprised that it was even second-best according to FishStick:
1) +0.08 (28 ply) 26.Qd5 Rae8 27.Qe4 exf4 28.Qxf5 Rxe1+ 29.Rxe1 Rxf5 30.Re4 d3 31.Rd4 Nf6 32.Rxd3 Kh7 33.Kf1 g5 34.a4 Kg6 35.Rd4 Rd5 36.Rxd5 Nxd5 37.b5 axb5 38.axb5 Kf5 39.Ke2 Ke5 40.g3 Ke4 41.gxf4 gxf4 42.Kf2 Kd4
2) =0.00 (27 ply) 26.Qh3 Qxh3 27.gxh3 Rf5
|Apr-20-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <Clement Fraud: I had often wondered how the manoeuvre Nd2-b3 would work out for white against the advance Caro Kann... and now I know to leave it alone.>|
The Nd2-b3 manoeuvre is not at all uncommon in the advanced C-K (in the 3...Bf5 lines). After all, one of black's main strategic aims in this opening is to undermine white's d4-pawn by pushing the c-pawn, and Nb3 helps to make ...c5 a little less effective (although it doesn't really prevent black from playing it).
<Ulhumbrus: 9...Bxc5?! concedes the bishop pair. This suggests 9...Nxc5>
This is way too dogmatic. There are many openings where black is willing to concede the bishop pair. If he can find a way of restricting one of the two white bishops, he will often have a comfortable game. In this game Carlsen put his LSB on e2 on move 7, and there it stood until he traded it off some fifteen moves later.
|Apr-20-18|| ||Richard Taylor: I think from memory 26. Qh3 was best (or a reasonable solution) according to the machine but I don't think he was lost. Carlsen was under pressure. Lost possibly but he would have found a resource I think. |
But all things being equal Navara played well. Carlsen kept calm and had it all under control it seems. Maybe around move 20 to 25 there were some critical moments...
|Apr-20-18|| ||Richard Taylor: Doubled pawns are like any other static feature. They can be a strength or a weakness as a game proceeds.|
|Apr-21-18|| ||diceman: These players calculate so well.
After 50.Kxb5, white holds the opposition!
< Earlier Kibitzing · PAGE 4 OF 4 ·