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Jun-07-18 | | Ulhumbrus: The move Nf5 gains White the advantage if after ...Bxf5 Black's knight lacks any stable post in the centre so that White's king's bishop becomes superior to Black's knight. This is what we can see happen in the game in the position after 32 Bc4 when White's bishop attacks the f7 pawn whereas Black's knight lacks any good as well as stable post. This suggests that if So is going to expose his f5 square to occupation by ...g5 he needs to be able to get ready a good post for his king's knight. |
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Jun-07-18 | | devere: The losing move was 41...Rd3 instead of 41...Rd2 which draws. Wesley So played 41...Rd3 after 4 seconds thought, so it seems that he became disoriented at the end of the first time control. He had a lot of time to think of the correct move, and did not use it. |
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Jun-07-18 | | ChessHigherCat: The Illustrated Devere:
 click for larger view41...Rd2 42. hxg4 hxg4 43. Qg2 Qh8+ 44. Kg1 Rxg2+ 45. Kxg2 Qh3+ 46. Kg1 Qg3+ 47. Kf1 Qf3+ 48. Kg1 |
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Jun-07-18 | | sudoplatov: Euwe did play Qd6 instead of Qd7 against Smyslov in the 1953 Candidates; turned a win into a loss. |
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Jun-07-18 | | hoodrobin: In the opening and afterwards Caruana appeared unstoppable. |
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Jun-07-18 | | thegoodanarchist: <chessgames.com: Congratulations to Caruana! And thanks to all of you for participating in our broadcast of Altibox Norway. We'll do it again soon.> You're going to replay the tournament? Why? |
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Jun-07-18 | | ajile: Strange how a seemingly innocuous move can ruin your day.
Position after 31.Qxf3:
 click for larger view Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit : 21 ply
1. ² (0.35): 31...Kb8 32.a6 Qd7 33.Qxb7+ Qxb7 34.axb7 Re7 35.Rxc5 Rxd3 36.Bc2 Rd2 37.Rc6 e4 38.Kg1 e3 39.Bd1 e2 40.Bxe2 Nd5 41.Rd6 Kxb7 42.b6 Rexe2 43.Rxe2 Rxe2 44.Rxd5 Kxb6 45.Rd6+ Kb5 46.Rd7 f6 2. ² (0.35): 31...Qd7 32.a6 Kb8 33.Qxb7+ Qxb7 34.axb7 Re7 35.Rxc5 Rxd3 36.Bc2 Rd2 37.Rc6 e4 38.Kg1 e3 39.Bd1 e2 40.Bxe2 Nd5 41.Rd6 Kxb7 42.b6 Rexe2 43.Rxe2 Rxe2 44.Rxd5 Kxb6 45.Rd6+ Kb5 46.Rd7 f6 But 31..Red8? (Black needs to secure his king position with ..Kb8 and ..Qd7.)  click for larger view Analysis by Rybka 3 32-bit
1. ± (0.89): 32.a6 Rxd3 33.axb7+ Kb8 34.Qc6 Ng4 35.Rxc5 Qxb7 36.Qxb7+ Kxb7 37.Bxf7 h4 38.Bh5 Re3 39.Rec1 Nf6 40.Bg6 Ng4 41.Rc7+ Kb6 2. = (0.17): 32.Bc4 Ng4 33.a6 e4 34.dxe4
Then this after 32..e4?:
(better is 32..Ng4. This exchange of pawns in the center favors White here.)  click for larger viewAnalysis by Rybka 3 32-bit
1. ² (0.65): 33.dxe4 Qe5 34.Bxf7 Rxe4 35.Rxe4 Nxe4 36.Re1 Rd2 37.Be6+ Kd8 38.g3 Ng5 39.Qe3 Qxe3 40.Rxe3 Nxe6 41.Rxe6 c4 42.f6 Rd7 43.Kg2 c3 44.Re2 Rc7 45.Kh3 c2 46.f7 Rxf7 47.Rxc2 Rf5 48.Rb2 2. = (0.25): 33.h3 Qe5 34.b6 axb6 35.axb6 R8d6 36.Rb1 h4 |
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Jun-07-18 | | ChemMac: Offsetting mistakes due to time pressure and So not realising he'd played his 40th move? 40. h3? (just 40. BXb7 wins easily) and as mentioned 41...Rd3? |
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Jun-07-18 | | ChessHigherCat: <ajile> Thanks for the interesting analysis. I have to admit this game keeps running through my head. This game is becoming increasingly unforgiving as the players near robotic perfection (although they still have a way to go, luckily, as shown by this game). |
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Jun-07-18 | | wordfunph: beautiful game!!!!
The Silencer vs The Prodigal Son
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Jun-08-18 | | ajile: <ChessHigherCat: <ajile> Thanks for the interesting analysis. I have to admit this game keeps running through my head. This game is becoming increasingly unforgiving as the players near robotic perfection (although they still have a way to go, luckily, as shown by this game).> I was kind of disappointed that So never got his k-side attack going instead opting to play in the center. At one point White had his bishops on c1 and c2 totally blocking White's rooks from using this file against Black's q-side king position. I was hoping Black would try to keep the center closed and then pile up on the g file with rooks etc. You know, really DO the wild mutual attacks thing where both sides go all in for king attacks. Instead So opted to open and fight in the center and simply got outplayed in the middle game. It doesn't appear to me that So committed to play and finish his original strategic intent when playing ..h6,..g5 and 0-0-0. Lastly as I said before if you are going to play this idea I like the Black king knight going to g6 behind the g5 pawn instead of f6. |
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Jun-08-18 | | ChessHigherCat: <Ajile: I was hoping Black would try to keep the center closed and then pile up on the g file with rooks etc. You know, really DO the wild mutual attacks thing where both sides go all in for king attacks.> That's the kind of Sicilian I'm used to as well, where the players each blindly pursue their own attack and throw caution to the winds. I didn't understand why Caruana didn't launch the kingside attack sooner or why he played Rb1 before b4, but I'm sure he knows what he's doing and when it's necessary to defend before pursuing the attack. So's queenside attack seemed much too slow and kind of aimless, as you say. |
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Jun-08-18 | | JimNorCal: In their post game interview both Magnus and MVL brought attention to 12. ... Ng4.
GM Svidler also pointed out out this move in his comments on the game. |
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Jun-08-18 | | ChessHigherCat: Sorry, So's <kingside> attack seemed much too slow. |
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Jun-08-18 | | Ulhumbrus: < devere: The losing move was 41...Rd3 instead of 41...Rd2 which draws. Wesley So played 41...Rd3 after 4 seconds thought, so it seems that he became disoriented at the end of the first time control. He had a lot of time to think of the correct move, and did not use it.> One example of an answer is that following the sacrifice 40...Rxh3+ 41 gxh3 it is more obvious that the remaining rook has a target in the form of the h3 pawn and less obvious that the remaining rook has a target in the form of the h2 square, after the g2 pawn which has obstructed the second rank has been displaced. As you say, So moved in 4 seconds and did not spend time looking for a better move. This brings to mind a remark from Lasker who said something like this <When you see a good move don't play it. Wait. There may be a better move.> |
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Jun-08-18
 | | moronovich: <moronovich: Thanks to ChessGames for the broadcat!> Did you notice my little tribute to you?
<ChessHigherCat> |
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Jun-08-18 | | ChessHigherCat: ,moronovich: <moronovich: Thanks to ChessGames for the broadcat!>
Did you notice my little tribute to you?
<ChessHigherCat> I appreciate the thought, but I'm not a broad cat, I'm a tomcat (a "broad" is old slang for a girl) |
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Jun-08-18
 | | moronovich: Well,I learned something new today <CHC>! It gonna be a fine day…. |
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Jun-08-18
 | | OhioChessFan: <Ulh: One example of an answer is that following the sacrifice 40...Rxh3+ 41 gxh3 it is more obvious that the remaining rook has a target in the form of the h3 pawn and less obvious that the remaining rook has a target in the form of the h2 square, after the g2 pawn which has obstructed the second rank has been displaced. As you say, So moved in 4 seconds and did not spend time looking for a better move. > I agree. If So had been presented the position after 41. gxh3 as a puzzle position, I bet he'd have found 41...Rd2 quickly. FWIW, I bet this game ends up a POTD and the people who find it will crow about it. But as there's no flashing lights every time there's a game changing move coming up, the players must continue to struggle through their mental gyrations and hope they don't miss something important. |
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Jun-08-18 | | epistle: This is the best game of 2018 |
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Jun-08-18 | | WorstPlayerEver: As <ajile> has pointed out: 32. a6 is already kind of deadly. Chess is some tricky game. |
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Jun-08-18 | | lost in space: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Wa...
Peter Svidler is analyzing this game. I had the feeling the Wesley was better in the game an missed something... |
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Jun-09-18 | | John Abraham: nice game but Wesley certainly did not play the opening very well, he tried to be unconventional but gave Fabiano a major edge in the midgame that he converted in with great technique and style. |
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Jun-09-18 | | geniokov: What i like in Wesley's game even he lost against Caruana is that his attitude in this game! He as an aggresor while Caruana is the defender.This is what i am pointing about in his attitude towards every game. Why is it that Mamedyarov,Svidler,Grischuk,Aronian,Adams are so popular in chess even they didn't became no#1 in chess? Simply because they put fire and fashion in board! Dynamic play is always what every chess enthusiast are looking for and not a slow moving style. |
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Jun-11-18 | | cormier: Analysis by Houdini 4
41...Rd2 42.hxg4 hxg4 43.Qg2 Qh8+ 44.Kg1 Rxg2+ 45.Kxg2 Qh3+ 46.Kg1 Qg3+ 47.Kh1 Qh3+ 48.Kg1 Qg3+
= (0.00) Depth: 28 |
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