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Vladimir Kramnik vs Jan-Krzysztof Duda
Dortmund Sparkassen (2018), Dortmund GER, rd 4, Jul-18
English Opening: King's English. Four Knights Variation Fianchetto Lines (A29)  ·  1-0


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Jul-18-18  Ulhumbrus: If Black does not want to play for a draw by 25...a5 he can play to win by 25...Qa8 26 Qxa7 Qd5 or even 25...Qa8 26 Qxa7 Qf3. As before White's pieces dominate the board but the exposure of White's king is not a small thing and it is not going to go away so my guess is that Black has at least a draw.
Jul-18-18  Marmot PFL: < “All rook endings are drawn?”>

To prove that down 2 pawns down is very difficult, even if the pawns aren't the best.

Jul-18-18  WorstPlayerEver: White will move d4-d5 after 25... Qa8, but 25... Qc8 seems even worse.
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  PawnSac: < Kf2! >

Kram's endgame technique is superb. He will win this

Jul-18-18  WorstPlayerEver: I heard the fat lady sing.
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  PawnSac: lol she's yodeling her butt off
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  PawnSac: dont even get distracted with the g5 pawn just play d6
Jul-18-18  Ulhumbrus: There is a saying that all rook and pawn endings are drawn and this suggests that the game will end in a draw. However the saying is not to be taken literally and this suggests that White may win.
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  An Englishman: Good Morning: White probably would have played f4-f5 in response to ...g7-g5 at any point this game. A White pawn on f6 will finish Black barring a miracle.
Jul-18-18  Marmot PFL: In the ending Kramnik showing the kid who is boss. At my amateur level I know younger players' weakness is often the ending but not at the top level. but it seems like black is rushing the moves, maybe just wanting to get it over with.
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  PawnSac: < Marmot PFL: it seems like black is rushing the moves, >

desperation. he knows when white gets the K to e6 it's over

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  ChessHigherCat: No, baby, no! I haven't been watching but Austin must not have played the optimal moves since I last tuned in.
Jul-18-18  Ulhumbrus: Following the exchange of queens by 26 Qxc8 Rxc8 the move 27 Kf2! threatens to develop the king further and to end up playing a king ahead, which is what happens. I don't know the name of the originator of the saying that the king is a piece in the endgame.
Jul-18-18  technical draw: Forget about black's g or h pawn queening. White has a forced mate.
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  PawnSac: < Ulhumbrus: I don't know the name of the originator of the saying that the king is a piece in the endgame. >

I don't know either but would guess it was Staunton

Jul-18-18  Strelets: <Ulhumbrus; PawnSac> I believe it was Steinitz. It definitely fits with his approach to chess.
Jul-18-18  Strelets: Neat finish in this one: 37...Rxe7 38.dxe7 hxg3 39.Ke6 g2 40.f6 g1=Q 41.f7#
Jul-18-18  WorstPlayerEver: “The King is a fighting piece. Use it!”

~Wilhelm Steinitz

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  Sokrates: Yes, Kramnik's finishing move is well calculated killer.
Jul-18-18  Caleb554: Well. Kramnik again shows-off his exceptional end-game skills and calculation.

Kramnik at his peak could go toe-to-toe with Kasparov at his peak. Kramnik might not have Kasparov's ability to attack, and many of his many strong qualities but boy is he a street fighter on board. He is as tough and as resourceful as they come. He has a very impressive technique as well and is a very good positional player as well.

I can think of only Carlsen and maybe Karjakin in the current era who are maybe as tough as resourceful.

Duda still has a long way to go before he catches-up with elite 2750 players.

Jul-18-18  nok: the rook on c2 was the pride of your position stoopid
Jul-18-18  cormier:

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Analysis by Houdini 4: d 24 dpa done

1. = (0.07): 22...g6 23.a4 Rd2 24.Rxf8+ Kxf8 25.Qe4 Qf5 26.Qxf5 gxf5 27.Re5 Rxd3 28.Rxf5 Rxd4 29.a5 Rb4 30.Kg2 Kg7 31.Rd5 Rb2+ 32.Kh3 Kf6 33.Kg4 Rxh2 34.axb6 h5+ 35.Kf3 axb6 36.Rd6+ Ke7 37.Rxb6 Rc2 38.Rb5 Rc3+ 39.Ke4 Rxg3 40.Rxh5

2. = (0.09): 22...g5 23.R8e4 Rd2 24.Rf1 g4 25.Qd7 Rd8 26.Qxg4+ Kh7 27.f5 Rxd3 28.Rd1 Rxd1+ 29.Qxd1 Qxf5 30.Re5 Qf6 31.a3 Kg7 32.Re4 Qf5 33.Rg4+ Kf8 34.Rf4 Qe6 35.Qd3 Kg7 36.Qf3 f5 37.Qd3 Qd7 38.Qc2 Qd5 39.g4 Rf8

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  thegoodanarchist: < Sokrates: Yes, Kramnik's finishing move is well calculated killer.>

Indeed! White's f-pawn will deliver the checkmate:

37...Rxe7 38.dxe7 hxg3 (38...Kd7 39.Kf7! +-) 39.Ke6! +-

Jul-18-18  Inocencio: Controlling the seventh rank with a fighting King plus phalanx of dangerous pawns are tsunami waves that Duda could not afford to overcome. This is a Tsunami Vintage Kramnik!
Jul-19-18  Atking: Kramnik shows that we should keep an eye on him. Still one of the best one the world. On the game sure the battle was almost equal around move 20th. 22...g6 the double pawns are not a threat. On the opening I have 2 questions. Instead of 13.cxd what's about 13.Rb1 b6 14.Re1 keeping options for the Queen. And before 10...Ne5 or more natural 10...Bg4 (& 11...Qd7) 11.NxN bxN 12.f3 Bd7 looks equal.
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