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|Sep-28-18|| ||chessgames.com: Hopefully Annie won't consider THIS a <second-rate game>...|
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|Sep-28-18|| ||Ulhumbrus: With 11...Nc7 the knight heads for d4. This suggests 12 d4 before Black can play 12...Ne6.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||chessgames.com: <Ulhumbrus: With 11...Nc7 the knight heads for d4. This suggests 12 d4 before Black can play 12...Ne6.>|
Maybe Rad1 for White before d4?
|Sep-28-18|| ||lost in space: 2) =0.00 (23 ply) 12...Ne6 13.exf6 exf6 14.Bh6 Nd4 15.Nxd4 cxd4 16.Ne4 Be6 17.Re2 Qd7 18.Bf4 Rfe8 19.Nd6 Re7 20.Rae1 Rd8 21.Nb7 Ra8 22.Nd6 |
Stockfisch Analysis from this side.
|Sep-28-18|| ||belgradegambit: Don’t understand fxe5? White now has a great position.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Inocencio: BG has nothing to lose that is why he is playing recklessly.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||HeMateMe: does white want to play Q-g5 and swap queens? He has the two Rooks, for the endgame.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: Just like yesterday, Caruana seems to have got everything he could wish for out of the opening, entering the middlegame with a very promising position. White looks good.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: <HeMateMe: does white want to play Q-g5 and swap queens?>|
Perhaps, but Nd4 looks like the natural move here. If Black exchanges the knight, White can open up his d-file (after dxe4) for his queen.
|Sep-28-18|| ||Parachessus: 21. ...Qxb2. Pointless pawn grabbing, that always helps.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: I meant Ne4, of course.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||whiteshark: Best line to come: <22. Qg5 Nd5 23. c3 h4 24. Rxh4 Rxh4 25. Qxh4 Qe2 26. c4 Ne3+ 27. Kh2 Bxe4 28. Rh3>|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: Black would surely like to grab the a-pawn as well, but if White now plays Qg5, he can't. Because he will have to prevent the menacing Qe7+, which woud win Black's knight.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: If Black plays ...h4, White will be forced to give back the exchange.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: Black has terrible coordination between his pieces. He should have jumped on the opportunity to win back the exchange with 23...h4. I think 23...e5 is a highly suspicious move. I think Caruana will bring home the full point! 1-0!|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Russo: Quite a creative opening by both players|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: Caruana needs to win his games now, 'cause he's not going to win any games in November :)|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: Now 26.Rxh5 and it's all over.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||offramp: I really like Baris and I am sad to see him having a hard time at this Olympics.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Count Wedgemore: Yes, me too <offramp>. He seems a very nice person. But he has had a downwards trajectory for some time now. He's quite simply not as good as he was. And I doubt he will ever be again.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||whiteshark: <I think 23...e5 is a highly suspicious move.> Me, too.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||offramp: <Count Wedgemore> Aye. Anand lost yesterdy, and it looks like Gelfand wll se today... ^ years ago they played a WC match and that seems to have been the last event before the new generation completely took over.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Diademas: < offramp: <Count Wedgemore> Aye. Anand lost yesterdy, and it looks like Gelfand wll se today... ^ years ago they played a WC match and that seems to have been the last event before the new generation completely took over.>|
Seems like the great generations comes in batches.. People like Tal, Spassky and Fischer born around 1940. Karpov and Kasparov falls a little in-between before Anand, Ivanchuk, Kramnik and Gelfand gets born ca. 1970,and now they are born around 1990.
|Sep-28-18|| ||Ulhumbrus: 12..fxe5 is greedy, 15...Rxf3 is generous and 21...Qxb2 is greedy again. If this sandwich of greed with generosity costs the game this suggests that either Black has to find another mixture or else not employ the mixture. How might Caissa view this? She would probably say that whether the move is greedy or generous is irrelevant and that what matters is the balance sheet. Does Black get enough in return for what he pays? In that case it is a matter of chance whether greed or generosity pays or not, and this seems a truer answer.|
|Sep-28-18|| ||Marmot PFL: Missed the game, didn't understand fe5 and Rxf3 as the usual 12...Ne6 and Nd4 looks OK.|
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