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Magnus Carlsen vs Richard Rapport
Tata Steel Masters (2019), Wijk aan Zee NED, rd 8, Jan-20
Sicilian Defense: Paulsen. Bastrikov Variation (B47)  ·  1-0
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Jan-20-19  nok: <<He must be depressed, drunk or crazy.> Why not? Those (plus "15 and lonely") are my standing assumptions for you.>

We know you can't take differing opinions, but I'm afraid you'll have to endure them until your re-education camps are open.

Jan-20-19
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  Check It Out: <OrangeTulip> your bio cracked me up. What was your original username from 2005?
Jan-20-19  Appaz: I'm leaving for Canada.

Bye, all good people in here and thanks for all the fish, I've had a good time up to the last months.

Logging off for good.

Jan-20-19
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  keypusher: Well, crap.
Jan-21-19  bahduggi: Fascinating. Personally, I found nothing offensive in Sargon's remark, which I interpreted to mean 'I am so very envious'. But I did notice a bit of jumping to conclusions, taking offense without attempting to clarify, shameless piling on, and juvenile self-righteousness. Here's to hoping some of you do grow up one day.
Jan-21-19
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  thegoodanarchist: < Sargon: OMG!

Did I at any point <identify> this personóout of the 6 billion on the planetówho I hated so? No.>

The post that started it all specified "GM". There are not 6 Billion GMS on the planet.

Anyway, I think some are overreacting. However, even if your remark was in jest not everyone will get that.

Communication is about 80% non-verbal, which of course is all lost in this format.

Jan-21-19
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  Check It Out: Iíll fess up to overreacting, but itís to an accumulation of events rather than just the one remark.
Jan-21-19
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  OrangeTulip: <Check It Out> I expect it was sreeskamp, and one day my login was not working anymore ( forgot my password), and so I had the chance to make a new name
Jan-21-19  Ulhumbrus: An alternative to 15...Bb7 is 15...Ne5 heading for d4 via c6
Jan-21-19
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  rogge: <In point of fact, I don't hate this chess player> Ok, <Sarge>.

I have to agree with <TGA> for once, <Communication is about 80% non-verbal, which of course is all lost in this format.>

Jan-21-19  john barleycorn: <Sargon: OMG! ...>

Too weak, too implausible.

There is your problem.

I know what I am talking about.

Believe me.

Jan-21-19  frogbert: <Itís your tone.>

It's that easy. One that seems to be quite easily offended, isn't really in a position to complain about others being somewhat easily offended.

On a slightly related note; if one runs a site and wants an international crowd around, it might be an idea to downplay one's patriotism and personal/national favouritism slightly. But of course, if one wants to make one's site a purely national arena, then it's all good and one will eventually succeed. :)

Jan-21-19  Dave12: 32.Rd5 is so neat in this position. Reminds me the 28.Re5 in Carlsen vs Anand, 2012
Jan-21-19  johnkr: GAme is difficult to analyze. It just seemed to me that Black never had very much counterplay. And it occurs to me that the position is similar to a game from Bronstein's book about Zurich Tournament 1953, which is the game Najdorf-Petrosian. In that game Black's hope for counterplay was on the q-side, to advance with a5,a4 etc. Here Carlsen obviously prevented this plan, perhaps an idea was for Black to maneuver his knight to d4 but it would have taken many moves. Consequently Black's setup with the pawn c5 "controlling" the center turned out to be useless, and White could slowly constrict Black and build his king-side attack. Fascinating.
Jan-21-19
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  OhioChessFan: After sleeping on it, I've decided I over-reacted to <Sargon>. It's not an admin account after all. Apologies for jumping down your throat.
Jan-21-19  frogbert: <OCF> When the non-admin account often is used to express admin opinions and decisions, this artificial border you mention becomes *very* blurred, imnsho. ;)
Jan-21-19
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  OhioChessFan: Yes, agree there <frogbert>
Jan-21-19
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  ChessHigherCat: I would like to add what the Nigerians call a GWOW (General World of Warning): Never use irony online unless you are sure that the entire audience is A) clever enough and/or B) knows you well enough to get the joke AND C) is well-intentioned towards you, because your enemies will deliberately ignore the irony and take your message at face value if it's to your disadvantage.

In this case, if Sargon's statement was meant ironically, prerequisites B and C, at least, were not satisfied, so it was ill-advised saying it.

Jan-21-19
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  Diademas: <<ChessHigherCat>: Never use irony online unless [...]>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%2...

Jan-21-19  csmath: I think Magnus is right on this one, he keeps on playing fairly consistent but sometimes he gets position that is just nice enough for him to shine. It seems after 24 moves Black is just worse no matter what. That black knight on d7 just sucks, doing nothing and going nowhere. This is a great game, and quite dominating, too bad for Rapport.
Jan-21-19
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  MissScarlett: Easy. He sets the expiry date of my premium membership from the current <Jan-13-2020> to, say, <Jan-13-2060>. That should cover it; I may be tenacious of life, but I'm not greedy.
Jan-22-19  fabelhaft: Carlsen didnít think this game was anything special, but it sure wasnít much wrong he did in it. Has to be his clearly best game in Tata this year.
Jan-22-19  frogbert: <nok: I only see patriotism on one side here.>

The operating term being "here", I suppose. :) If I cared even one bit, I could've provided a few examples from the dozens available around the site, but alas - I don't and won't.

I mainly commented on tone and hypocrisy; I'm not up anyone's ass and I'm not the least offended. :) However, I'm more than a little amused by obvious shortcomings in both people and business skills. Have a good day, everyone!

Jan-22-19  ajile: A lot of thin skinned people around here. Remarks like that on gaming forums are considered normal even by admins.

As to the entertainment value of the site it appears that fights in the comment sections now beat out actual chess game play. I mean 95% of all top games now consist of the same 4-5 openings which have been analyzed to death.

So what is the future of chess? Online it is (apparently) doing great in blitz formats but how long can even this be maintained?

Jan-23-19
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  Gypsy: This, actually, was a very entertaining game.
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