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|Jan-24-19|| ||raju17: 76...b3 77. Nc3 b2 78. Kd4 b4 79. Nb1 Kb5|
|Jan-24-19|| ||rogge: 76...b3 77. Nd4+, and b3 is gone.|
|Jan-24-19|| ||MrMelad: Impressive|
|Jan-24-19|| ||Ulhumbrus: If Anand missed the way to draw after 70...bxa4 and one is going to speculate on the reasons why, one may guess more than one possible explanation. Three examples of guesses are (1)fatigue after several hours of play (2) an oversight which 70...b4 was based on, and this could have been caused partly by the first reason and (3) Anand needs more practice at seeing or recognizing quickly the resources employed by Black in arriving at the draw after 70...axb4. Anand's own view can be assumed the reliable one.|
|Jan-24-19|| ||paavoh: A very enjoyable game with high caliber maneuvering.|
|Jan-24-19|| ||starry2013: If Caruana was hoping he'd at least temporarily gain rating top spot in this period it looks like he'll be disappointed.|
|Jan-24-19|| ||The Kings Domain: Shades of 2013-2014. Reminds me of Morozevich's comment on the Norwegian's style of play: "He doesn't play the best move, he plays the right move".|
|Jan-24-19|| ||ChessHigherCat: That reminds of me the reporter who asks Capablanca's opponent how many moves he can see ahead: "11. I can see 11 moves ahead". Then he asks Capa the same question: "Just one, but always the right one."|
|Jan-24-19|| ||John Abraham: Carlsen's domination of Anand is getting to Kasparovian levels.|
|Jan-24-19|| ||BOSTER: <Eayl>.Another Q. Why did Anand move his knight far from his king playing move 67... Ng6+ not Nc6+?|
|Jan-24-19|| ||BOSTER: Supposed to be <Eyal>.|
|Jan-25-19|| ||Eyal: <Why did Anand move his knight far from his king playing move 67... Ng6+ not Nc6+?>|
67...Nc6+ takes away freedom of maneuvering from the knight - White should be winning after 68.Ke6, e.g. 68...Nd8+ (moving with the king allows White Kd6) 69.Kd5 and now a5 is coming next move, whatever Black does. Let's say 69...Nb7 70.a5! bxa5 71.Nb2! followed by Na4 (prepared by c4 if necessary) and capture on c5 with a winning position. So 67...Ng6+ was an only move (allowing Black to defend against 68.Kd5 with Nf4+) - another illustration that at least by this stage, the ending is not so easy for Black to defend.
|Jan-25-19|| ||BOSTER: Thanks <Eyal>.But computer evaluation after 67...Nc6+ is equal.|
|Jan-25-19|| ||Eyal: <BOSTER> Not really. I mean, when you say "computer evaluation" it always depends on what computer and which ply-depth of analysis - perhaps you looked at some relatively shallow evaluation, but if you let a decent engine run long (that is, deep) enough it will show you the win.|
|Jan-25-19|| ||keypusher: <BOSTER>
If you run SF on this website for 15 minutes the eval after 67....Nc6+ is +5.11 (54 ply). I don't pretend to understand all the moves, but it follows the variation <Eyal> gave, and White captures the c-pawn and eventually the a-pawn with a simple win.
|Jan-25-19|| ||BOSTER: I agree. You both are right.I follow CG engine, and it creates the wrong feeling.|
|Jan-27-19|| ||Penguincw: Some video footage of the end of this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9M....|
|Jan-28-19|| ||fabelhaft: Many were saying stuff like Anand failing to find the draw after 70. a5 will be the blunder of the year etc, but it says something about how tricky it after all was when even Judit Polgar well after the tournament was over thinks Anand was lost after a5 :-)|
<@GMJuditPolgar: Congratulations to Magnus Carlsen for winning the 7th time the historical event in Wijk aan Zee! Very nice technique against Anand in game 10. After a5 it is over. If bxa5 Kd5 Nf4, Kc5 Ne2, Na3! And black cannot take Nxc3 to Nb5 and the pawn endgame wins. https://twitter.com/GMJuditPolgar/s...>
|Feb-06-19|| ||achieve: <Eyal:
Several people already mentioned that 70...b5? (instead of bxa5!) was the losing move, but it should be noted that 70...bxa5 works for a <very> concrete reason, which requires precise calculation: 71.Kd5 Nf4+! >
I disagree with the notion that it requires precise and <concrete> calculation. During the game I commented on this position and obviously the only way to get the knight back in position to sac itself is from the side and from under the pawns, so the route via f4 to e2 and c1 to the ideal <a2> even, does <NOT> require precise calculation, they are - to me - quite obvious, and as I said the clear way back to the pawns, and harrassing them.
I was fresh at the time, and an endgame freak, admitted, but Anand when fresh ought to have seen and felt that maneuvre, especially since Vishy is a Knight wizard.
Only short calculations (in endgames I excel at those, not in middle games!;)) come into play.
However to close with a compliment, I want to voice my appreciation for the analysis you did in your familiar precise manner! :)
And on a final note; I haven't been around cg much lately, and it was good seeing you again considering the many conversations, including tennis!, we had. ;)
|Feb-08-19|| ||HeMateMe: I wonder how much of this was home prep by Anand, putting his king in the middle of the board for an early endgame, and at what point MC took him out of prep? Anand must have thought this was a good position, despite the ugly pawn structure.|
|Feb-15-19|| ||Everett: <achieve> <I was fresh at the time, and an endgame freak, admitted, but Anand when fresh ought to have seen and felt that maneuvre, especially since <Vishy is a Knight wizard.>>|
Yes, and so is Carlsen, all the more reason why Carlsen is one of the toughest opponents for Anand. Kramnik I believe once noted just how good Anand is with knights....
|Feb-25-19|| ||Shamboozle: It's not a draw people. If Anand plays b3, then Nd4+ immediately nabs the pawn. If black plays a strong move, Kc5, white's plan is easy - Nc1 followed by Nb3 on the next move. Once white's knight gets to b3,- this blockades both of black's pawns and protects white's only pawn. Black cannot stop white's pawn and protect his own pawns simultaneously, so as black fiddles with his king, white will win both black pawns, and then slowly push his pawn to victory. Any attempts for black to capture white's knight end in white queening his pawn faster. Stockfish gives the final position of the game, ie where Anand resigned as +4.5 for white.|
|Mar-30-19|| ||joddon: goes to show...Carlsen will go out of his mind to calculate....wow, never seen a white knight moves so many places and not make a mistake on placing it on a bad square....as if he s played all the outcomes before in his head....think he starts playing the game before it even starts....LOL!!|
|Apr-03-19|| ||Jambow: Carlsen seems to me unique in that he loves an endgame with some minor pieces but unlike Fischer and Karpov he is ruthless with his knights. Kasparov used his knights to great effect as well but with devastating effect in the middle game. This is vintage Magnus if it is ok to call a twenty year old vintage anything. |
Most players seek clarification in the last section of the game Magnus seeks the opposite.
|May-04-19|| ||Plaskett: This ending can be tricky, see, e.g. Miles Vs Korchnoi. last round of Hastings 1976.|
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