Mar-17-20 | | Fanques Fair: 13-b5 looks unnecessary and anti-positional, resulting in the eternal weakness of the d3-pawn . Maybe 13-Bc3, b5 ?! , 14- Nb2 and the positon is equal, but with nice strategical features in coming. |
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Mar-17-20 | | morfishine: Liren appeared uninspired |
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Mar-17-20 | | starry2013: Probably not enjoyable living in quarantines for weeks. |
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Mar-17-20 | | paavoh: The actual moves 13-16 are the same as the Stockfish engine gives here?! Go figure. But true, d3 looks awful. |
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Mar-17-20 | | Brenin: White is the exchange for a pawn up at the end, but helpless against g3, Kf5, Kg4, h3, etc. |
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Mar-17-20
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Mar-17-20 | | ndg2: This game should stop any allegations (if they were any ever) the Chineses could have fixed the games in favor of ELO favorite Ding. |
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Mar-18-20 | | MasterWeichhart: Actually 15. b5 is a great move, it gives White the Key c4 Square which could have been decisive, the mistake was 30. f4 which was just too early
and moves like 40. d4 or 37 Rc3 are for a Human being almost impossible to find, Wang Hao just played a great game(especially after 30. f4) |
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Mar-18-20
 | | JointheArmy: <ndg2> I'm guessing you didn't see Sagar Shah's interview with Wang Hao. https://it-it.facebook.com/chessbas... |
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Mar-18-20 | | Fanques Fair: MasterWeichart and paavoh, even if the computer evaluation is equal, I just feel that the Nc4 knight doesn´t compensate for the constant need to defend the d3 pawn, it restricts White´s possibilities , the rook on a3 is never active, it's just an ugly position. Even if it´s defendable, it´s a long way of what White would wish to obtain on the opening for such an important game, in a tournament where every point is gold. |
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Mar-18-20 | | SChesshevsky: <...the mistake was 30. f4 which was just too early...> I think Ding with 29. Bc1 saw through to 33. e5 Re6 getting the passed pawn and then with 34. Ne3 expected ...g6 protecting the f pawn but locking up black pretty good. Unfortunately missing 34...Rg6+ which looks to transpose to a position I can't believe Ding wanted. |
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Mar-18-20 | | MordimerChess: Most of the commentary here is about Ding Liner's move f4. But keep in mind that he tried to prepare it for really long time - just to give some freedom to his b2 bishop. Wang Hao prevented it first with Bg4, pinning the knight. Ding Liren spend really a lot of energy to exchange dangerous light square bishop (in the future Be2 with attack on the rook and d3 weak pawn was possible), then exchange queens. And at the end knight landed on g6, controlling f4. Maybe white should continue to improve the position with moves Ne3 and Nd5 to support f4? But Bc1 takes one tempo less and also bishop on b2 wasn't so attractive any more, due to g7-f6 pawn structure. That's why we had the move f4. The best in the game was exploiting the weaknesses, first on d3 then transferring it to h5 by maneuver: Qg5! h5! f5! Awesome chess! Ding Liren vs Wang Hao
https://youtu.be/ySbjwqo53Nk
Enjoy my full analysis from black perspective! |
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Mar-18-20 | | jerseybob: 11.e4 seems a litle committal. If it were part of a Kingside attack ala Botvinnik, with e4, Nge2 and f4 etc. fine, but in this setting, with white loaded up on the Q-side, it seems out of place. Why not leave the e-pawn alone(as black does in the Benko gambit) and try 11.Rb1!? and now if 11..e4 12.Ng5!? aiming for Nh3/f4. |
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Mar-18-20 | | SChesshevsky: <11.e4 seems a little commital...> Yeah, it certainly looks to put any Qside use of Bg2 aside which might be a consideration with the pawn expansion. Is Seirawan doing commentary for St. Louis? He was a serious expert in the reverse Dragon qside pressure play. A fact that I think helped him reach GM. There's a SL chess club video out there with him explaining some aspects. If he is doing commentary, it'd be interesting to hear his take on 11. e4. |
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Mar-19-20 | | naufallabs: sweet revenge by Wang Hao after loss on 2017 World Cup |
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Mar-20-20 | | Ulhumbrus: If after 25 Qf5 White can't gain the advantage by f4 one alternative is 25 Nc4 starting the manoeuvre Nd2-c4-e3-d5 |
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Mar-28-20 | | Everett: At move 25 for white Nc4-e3-d5 looks like a happy N vs sad Bc7. If Black plays Ne6-Nd4, then I think White can simply capture BxN and have a superior minor piece middle game. |
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