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Aug-02-22
 | | al wazir: Did white actually play 30. Kh1 ? Why? |
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| Aug-02-22 | | stacase: Way easier than yesterday. |
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Aug-02-22
 | | perfidious: Romero's sense of danger betrayed him here. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | newzild: Like <Brenin>, this took me longer than it should have. Note to self - remember the rule about analysing checks first. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | mel gibson: That took me 7 seconds and only because I kept
thinking it can't be that simple. LOL |
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| Aug-02-22 | | stst: 29......BxP+
IF 30.RxB Re1+; 31.Rf1 QxR#
IF 30.KxB Qxh2+; 31.Kf3 Qe2# |
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| Aug-02-22 | | stst: MIssed the 3rd IF..... the text move: but it's insane!? too easy for QxR# - as one lamented, why White made this move (at all) and not the other two IFs (RxB or KxB??) |
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| Aug-02-22 | | agb2002: Black is one knight and one pawn down.
White is about to play Ne5.
The knight is defenseless but the white king is overburdened with the defense of f2 and h2 and so is the rook with the defense of f2 and the back rank. Hence 29... Bxf2+: A) 30.Kxf2 Qxh2+ 31.Kf3 Qe2#.
B) 30.Rxf2 Re1+ 31.Rf1 Q(R)xf1#.
C) 30.Kh1 Qxf1#. |
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Aug-02-22
 | | HeMateMe: Lobron Aims... |
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| Aug-02-22 | | saturn2: 29...Bxf2 and two moves later Qe2 or Rxf1 mate. There are days when writing takes longer than solving. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | goodevans: <TheaN: [...] After 27.Nb6? f4! is absolutely stunning, forcing a break on the king side.> Absolutely, a terrific move indeed. But after 28.exf4 Black then missed the very neat <28...Qxf1+> (#3). With the game's 28...Ba7, White could have held out a little longer by giving up his B with <29.Bh7+> in order to protect f2. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | cocker: Black missed mate in three on the previous move, starting with 28 ... Qxf1+. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | cocker: As just pointed out by <goodevans>. |
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Aug-02-22
 | | Honza Cervenka: 26.Rxb4 allowing black to open a7-g1 line was a bad idea. Maybe something like 26.Rfe1 h4 27.Bd3 Rxa4 28.Qd2 hxg3 29.hxg3 Rb4 30.Bf1 Qh7 31.Rbc1 could hold the position. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | TheaN: < goodevans: <TheaN: [...] After 27.Nb6? f4! is absolutely stunning, forcing a break on the king side.> Absolutely, a terrific move indeed. But after 28.exf4 Black then missed the very neat <28...Qxf1+> (#3). With the game's 28...Ba7, White could have held out a little longer by giving up his B with <29.Bh7+> in order to protect f2.> Ah yes. Always a bit of a shame if these variations pop up, given Black played an awesome game and combination but then missed the 'relatively' easy finish. Result's all the same, yet one questions why Black spots Ba7 with Bxf2+ and Re1+ etc, and not Qxf1+ with Bh3+ and Re1#, given it's somewhat similar in pattern. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | TheaN: <jrredfield: btw I just had another occurrence of the Arena GUI freezing up on my Windows laptop while running Stockfish 15. This has happened a couple of times at least. I don't recall ever having this occur with SF 14 or 14.1. Anyone else having this issue?> Haven't used my own setup in a while given I usually use a certain free website's build in engine for quick analysis. However, I reckon it could be because of SF 15's NNUE support? I'd check the developer's website whether they've said something about it. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | GlennOliver: <al wazir>: Did white actually play 30. Kh1 ? Why? Implicit resignation accompanied by a handshake, presumably. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | GlennOliver: The alternate endgame line -
29. ... Bxf2+ 30. Kxf2 Qxh2+ 31. Kf3 Qe2#
- wasn't quite so obvious, at least not to my perception. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | Fiddlerookie: Hi gang: I've been lurking for a few weeks but this is my first post so please be kind to a rookie! Looking over white's options given this configuration I wonder about: 29. Qc4 Bxb6 30. Be4 ...
Instead of moving the knight out of danger to grab a non-critical B, position the white Q to intervene; make Black lose tempo of a move to clear the Knight out of the way. Then white B (protected by Q) blocks the rook file. White is down a piece but survives? |
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Aug-02-22
 | | Teyss: <Fiddlerookie> Hi, welcome to this site. Depends if one prefers slow death one piece down or quick death with mate. If you click on "Engine" after your line you'll see SF gives -9.7 at 24 ply which at that level means resignation <goodevans> Well spotted. Maybe Black was expecting 28.gxf4 with Q+B delivering mate as per <TheaN> and didn't really calculate exf4. So when it occurred he didn't think about the R which now had an open file and went for the diagonal with 28...Ba7. Then saw the missed mate, bit his tongue, blushed and hoped White wouldn't see it either. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | jrredfield: <Fiddlerookie> Welcome to the POTD forum! |
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| Aug-02-22 | | dhotts: The real puzzle (maybe a Friday/Saturday) is two moves earlier 27. Nb6, Black to move! |
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| Aug-02-22 | | TheaN: <al wazir: Did white actually play 30. Kh1 ? Why?> Probably spotted Rxf2 Re1+ and Kxf2 Qxh2+, plays Kh1 missing Qxf1# at first glance followed by resignation after realizing that's mate in one, or because his opponent started frowning obviously. Honestly, been there, done that, on both sides of the coin. |
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| Aug-02-22 | | TheaN: Lets discuss opening and game flow of this interesting game before we get another PotD: I never really understood the idea behind the exchange Trompowsky, it feels no unnatural to play the Spanish-like setup on the king side, given there are no apparent weaknesses and the queen side majority is easily defended. I'd take Black after move 3 no questions asked. Having said that, Black didn't really know how to capitalize on it and gives away the advantage immediately to end up in an even middlegame. White even had the better game till, why doesn't it surprise me, 18.Qxb7 (Bxa4 ⩱)... I don't see why White wanted to expand so quickly on the queen side. It went downhill with 26.Rxb4, and the nail was 27.Nb6 f4! -+ at a whopping -7. |
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Aug-03-22
 | | gawain: Needed extra time to see this one, even though it just had to be the check on f2. Nothing else was plausible at all. |
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sac: 28...Ba7