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Jun-21-22
 | | Chnebelgrind: Chess is still alive |
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Jun-21-22
 | | moronovich: And so are you <Chnebelgrind> ! Good to see you again. |
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| Jun-21-22 | | fisayo123: Pretty bad quality game by Firouzja overall. He played slowly and poorly. He does have a tendency to have 1 or 2 really low quality games in him in a tournament. Comes with being only 18/19 years old. |
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Jun-21-22
 | | keypusher: < moronovich: And so are you <Chnebelgrind> !
Good to see you again.>
Indeed! I'm having a cow! |
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| Jun-21-22 | | Fish55: I think that 15...Bc4 was prepared but Firouzja seemed to be unprepared at move 20 and played 20...Bxf1 which gives white attacking chances on the f-file. 20...Nd6 or Kh8 were better. |
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| Jun-21-22 | | Ulhumbrus: 6 f3 is passive.
One alternative to 6...e5 is 6...e6 preparing the advance ..d5 as in the game Lombardy vs Fischer, 1960 An alternative to 9...0-0 is 9...Nc6
eg 10 0-0-0 Qc7 11 g4 0-0-0 castling on the same side as White as in the game Karpov vs Kasparov, 1984 One alternative to 10...Nbd7 is 10...Nc6 beginning the plan of ...a5, ...Nb4 and ...d5 as in the Boleslavsky system or else ...a4 eg 10...Nc6 11 g4 a5 12 g5 a4
13 gxf6 axb3 14 fxe7 bxa2 15 exd8=Q
15...a1=Q+ 16 Nb1 Rfxd8
The computer evaluations suggested - and the commentators probably indicated - that the moves 23...Nd6? and 24...Rac8? are both serious mistakes and each increase greatly White's slight advantage. They fail to answer White's threats on f6. In the case of the latter it is not obvious that 24 Qxb4 threatens Bb6!! displacing the black queen from her cover of d6 and f6 as well as causing her to block the square d7 for the use of the N on f6. The sacrifice 36 Rxh7+! starts a winning mating attack. One of the many things that the commentators said was that if a player gave Nepomniachtchi the chance to make a combination Nepomniachtchi would take the chance and make the combination. |
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| Jun-21-22 | | AlicesKnight: <ILikeKeres: Nepo's queen maneuver from Qxb4 back to d1 reminds me of a famous Alekhine game. Can anyone help me out with which Alekhine game it was?> perhaps, are you thinking of Bogoljubov vs Alekhine, 1922 - a fine game indeed? |
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| Jun-21-22 | | ILikeKeres: <AlicesKnight> No, that is not the game. I am pretty sure Alekhine made a similar maneuver to Nepo's Qb4 to Qe1, except it was Qa4 to Qd1 in a similarly winning fashion. |
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Jun-21-22
| | moronovich: <Indeed! I'm having a cow!> It is the cow factor ;) |
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Jun-21-22
 | | harrylime: Embarrassing game. |
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| Jun-21-22 | | ndg2: <whitehat1963><What was Firouzja's last chance to save a draw (or find a win)?>After 23..♘d6 24.♕xb4, the computer eval immediately springs from <1 to something like +6. It's that bad of a move. 23..♕c7 was needed, but I think, Alireza would have lost anyway today. |
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Jun-22-22
 | | saffuna: Daniel King notes that at move 31 both players had 1:11 showing on the clock. Nepomniachtchi had 1:11:00, and Firouzja had 0:01:11 |
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Jun-22-22
| | harrylime: TIN POT
Just shows how Over Rated
Your chess players ARE today loike .. |
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| Jun-22-22 | | boz: Firouzja is maybe a little too brave at this stage of his young career. To play such a position against Nepo! Admirable but reckless. |
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| Jun-22-22 | | anjumskhan: bye bye Firouzja better next time |
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Jun-22-22
 | | Dionysius1: <Ulhumbrus: 6 f3 is passive>. I thought the sequence it initiates is one of the most active in these systems. You know, Be3, Qd2, 0-0-0, Kingside pawn push. Firouzja seems to have thought it was passive and launched an active challenge to it. In this occasion that didn't work well. |
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Jun-22-22
 | | LRLeighton: 6 f3 is just a transposition and any GM playing either side of the Najdorf would be familiar with it. It is certainly not passive. Up until 15...Bc4, this is arguably the main line of the English Attack in the Najdorf. The normal move in this position is 15...a4 (see for example, Anand's beautiful, multiple-sacrifice win with black against Karjakin from Corus, 2006). "Book" on this line goes out to 20+ moves. The machine views the resulting positions as equal, but in the last 7 or 8 years, the results have been overwhelmingly in white's favour. Perhaps this is why Firouzja introduced the novelty 15...Bc4. It would be troubling if he played this line because of a lack of preparation. Does anyone have a game-score that shows how much time was spent on this move? I personally don't think that this move is so terrible, but as others have pointed out, 20...Bxf1 is strategically dubious, and 23...Nd6? just blunders a pawn with no compensation. |
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Jun-22-22
 | | fredthebear: Dropping pawns is like having to hold up your britches with both hands while playing an action sport! It's difficult to do while on the move. GM Ben Finegold Recap: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?... Jozarov explains a hundred different captures: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?... This should be GM Daniel King: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?... More than four hours of Round 4 coverage: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?... Five hours of round 4? https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...
These presentations are starting to run together in my mind. Come well rested, relaxed, prepared. Play by the rules. Play naturally. Don't beat yourself. Don't help the other guy. Make it difficult for the other guy. Don't over think it. Don't try to be tricky dick nixon and trick yourself. Stop and think, don't rush. Make sound moves. Be great at all the basic fundamentals and typical strategies. Don't beat yourself. Let the other guy screw up first. When you have the better of it, KEEP PUNCHING! When you have the worst of it, KEEP PUNCHING! Don't expose your king. Avoid pawn weaknesses. Don't tie down your pieces. Coddle your pawns. Time trouble increases the likelihood of making more bad moves. All of this is easy to say, not easy to do. Be a good sport afterward too. Call your papa later -- he's a big fan but he tries not to get emotional over it because emotions and excuses aren't helpful. Stay calm, focused, and calculated; follow your plan. Your plan should logical, reasonable, have a good chance of success -- it doesn't have to be ingenious. Don't try to reinvent the wheel. Go with what you know. Bounce back tomorrow -- be grateful for the opportunity. Put yesterday behind you. Win, lose, or draw -- learn from your mistakes and try not to repeat them. These are good times! Enjoy the action! Competition is a roller coaster ride -- you won't catch all the breaks. Roll w/the punches! Be resilient! Overcome failure! Try, try, try again! Don't pout or be a jerk. Have a poker face, remain level-headed. How you act, how you play the game matters. Consistency adds up. FIDE article: https://new.fide.com/news/1824 |
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| Jun-23-22 | | Whitehat1963: Thank you to everyone who helped clarify what was going on here. |
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Jun-23-22
| | saffuna: <boz: Firouzja is maybe a little too brave at this stage of his young career. To play such a position against Nepo! Admirable but reckless.> <fisayo123: Pretty bad quality game by Firouzja overall. He played slowly and poorly. He does have a tendency to have 1 or 2 really low quality games in him in a tournament. Comes with being only 18/19 years old.> <thebully99: Firouzja isn't ready for prime time yet> These comments bring up an interesting question. What should Firouzja's goal be in this tournament? Should he play for his best result right now, or should he play in a manner most likely to help his play over the coming years, even if it results in a few more losses today? He is barely 19 years old, and appears to have a brilliant career ahead of him. Maybe he can view this tournament as a learning experience, playing dynamic games rather than simply attempting to avoid losses. |
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Jun-23-22
| | moronovich: Today Firo is going down vs Caruana. Looked like he underestimated the counterblow 22. - f5 (!). |
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| Jun-27-22 | | jerseybob: <LRLeighton: 6 f3 is just a transposition and any GM playing either side of the Najdorf would be familiar with it. It is certainly not passive.> I agree that it's not passive, and comparisons with Lombardy-Fischer don't work for me. MCO-10(which I've lost) mentions the f3 idea in a footnote in the 6.Bc4 section. Then 6.f3 straightaway came into vogue. The English Attack can also be played against non-Najdorf lines, as in round 25 of the Fischer-Spassky 1992 match. Too bad the idea wasn't popular during Bobby's heyday! |
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Jul-19-22
 | | Open Defence: I'm not sure what the idea of 15...Bc4 was
After 16.Ng3 Black will need to exchange of the LSB Even the pawn side advance on the Q side just ends up locking the pawns leaving white to play on the K side... an example could be 16.Ng3 Bxf1 17.Rhxf1 a4 18.Na1 a3 19.b3 Kh8 20.h4 Rc8 21.h5 Rg8 22. f6 gxf6 23. g6 fxg6 24. hxg6 Nf8 
click for larger viewWhite is great
trying to find alternatives for Black on move 17 in this line A. 17..f6? 18.Qd5+ Kh8 19.g6 ±
B. 17...Nc7?? 18.f6 gxf6 19.gxf6 Nxf6 20.Nf5 Kh8 21.Nxe7 Nxe4 ± C. 17...Kh8 18.Kb1 Rc8 19.h4 a4 20. Nc1 a3 21.b3 and again White's K side pawn play will get Black in trouble So what was Alireza Firouzja's reasoning behind 15...Bc4? |
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| Jul-24-22 | | DaSlurpyNinja: If 16. Ng3 Bxf1 17. Rhf1 a4 18. Na1 Black can play 18... Kh8 19. h4 Rg8 If White continues with your plan, the game can continue 20. h5 Nb6 21. f6 gxf6 22. g6?? Nc4
click for larger viewWhite has to play 22. Qxb4 to maintain equality, or deviate earlier (like playing 20. Qd5) to maintain an advantage (about +0.70). |
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| Nov-07-22 | | tbontb: A theoretical Sicilian Najdorf where, in a razor-sharp position, after 23....Nd6 (better ....Qc7) Black is suddenly lost and there are later many ways to win (e.g. 28. Rxf6 or 31. Ba1). In his element, Nepo's continuation in the game is also sufficient and completely crushing, concluding with a pleasing R sacrifice to force checkmate. |
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