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|Jan-18-06|| ||foolishmovesss: I just started to play this as white yesterday. I have been playing it in blitz trying to get the hang of it. Now let me say this, I am a horrible blitz player(average 1400 on ICC. But when I play the KIA I am destroying people 3 and 400 points higher rated then me. I am really enjoying the flexability. I may never play anything but 1) Nf3 ever again. The play from this opening is so dynamic, maybee it is just my style. I can't explain it.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||sirduke: Doesn't the 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 move order to reach the QGD bypass white's best lines? After 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 Fritz always likes d5, presumably because c4 then is not as strong. Any comments?|
|Jan-20-06|| ||who: Fritz thinks after 1.d4 d5 that 2.c4 isn't the best move either. So you should take it with a grain of salt when Fritz gives advice in the opening.|
|Jan-20-06|| ||Cecil Brown: <sirduke> After 1.Nf3 d5 2.d4 Nf6 3.c4 e6 white cannot play the Nge2 lines of the exchange variation as used by Kasparov and described as the refutation of the QGD by Hans Berliner in his book 'The System'.|
You also cannot play the line 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nc3!? which Berliner thinks is the best way to handle the Slav.
|Jan-20-06|| ||EnglishOpeningc4: Fritz says that 1.a3 and 1.c3 are better than 1.c4, dont take its advice in the opening, it doesnt consider positional themes|
|Jan-23-06|| ||sirduke: Thank you all. <Cecil Brown>, your comments are greatly appreciated and precisely what I was getting at. I'll take a closer look at those lines tonight.|
|Feb-10-06|| ||jamesmaskell: I love the KIA. A simple logical set up also very flexible. Very easy to remember. I got a 17 move mate with the KIA the other day against a friend. A wonderful little game. Black didnt see it coming.|
|May-22-06|| ||marn0: Hurrah for the KIA!
I like to play the 1.e4 open games as White (especially the Vienna or Scotch). What I enjoy so much about the KIA is its facility versus the non-1...e5 replies (Sicilian, French, C-K). The KIA with the 1.e4 move order frees me from having to study the mainlines of those half-open defenses.
It allows me to play my preferred 1.e4 opening without the concern, "But what if they play 1...c5?" (etc).
|May-22-06|| ||whiskeyrebel: yeah..it's good to choose a direction in the opening that won't likely be your opponents first choice. The KIA leaves you with decent developement and hopefully familiar strategic goals.|
|May-22-06|| ||Jeb Boots: But playing the KIA against the Sicilian leaves white very, very cramped. If someone played that against me as white, I'd go into a fit of laughter.|
|May-22-06|| ||alicefujimori: <Jeb Boots>Would you laugh if Fischer plays it against you? :)|
|May-22-06|| ||GBKnight: Yes, its more common to play the KIA (after 1e4) against the French, when black has already played e6 (white would not normaly play e3 against the KID)|
|May-27-06|| ||whiskeyrebel: laugh all you want; for a 1400 rated player (the estimated strength of the player I responded to) it's not a bad choice at all.|
|Jun-09-06|| ||Henrik S. Hansen: Please comment and give variations to this KIA game I played on ICC today. I am happy with my play up until 43. b5, which draws a winning position. I should have played Kc4 instead, I think.|
[Event "ICC 25 4"]
(Moves in next post)
|Jun-09-06|| ||Henrik S. Hansen: 1. f3 d6 2. g3 f6 3. g2 e5 4. d3 g6 5. e4 g7 6. bd2 O-O 7. O-O c5 8. h3
c6 9. c3 b5 10. a3 e6 11. g5 d7 12. xe6 fxe6 13. g4 e7 14. f4 c4 15.
dxc4 bxc4 16. xc4 exf4 17. xf4 e5 18. g5 f6 19. xf6 xf6 20. g5 e6
21. e3 h5 22. d5 ab8 23. xf8+ xf8 24. f1 xf1+ 25. xf1 f7 26. c4
h8 27. g2 g7 28. g4 e7 29. xe7 xe7 30. e6 xe6|
|Jun-09-06|| ||Henrik S. Hansen: 31. xe6 g7 32. f3
f6 33. d5 g7 34. b4 e8 35. g4 c7 36. c4 h6 37. h4 g5 38. h5 e7 39.
e3 d7 40. a4 c6 41. d3 b6 42. f7 a5 43. b5 c5 44. c2 a8 45. b3 b6
46. c4 d4 47. d5 c5 48. c3 (Game drawn by mutual agreement) 1/2-1/2
|Jun-09-06|| ||borisbadenoff: <Henrik S. Hansen: Please comment and give variations to this KIA game I played on ICC today. I am happy with my play up until 43. b5, which draws a winning position. I should have played Kc4 instead, I think.> Why not make just a single post instead of three?|
My first idea was 9. .. b5 seems a little overambitious and 10. a4 may help to overextend blacks-pawnstructure early on in the game.
Then 11. .. Nd7 was clearly an error as you noticed by playing 12. Nxe6 fxe6 13. Qg4 sadly you go for the wrong side. As mentioned before the b5 was premature in my opinion and 13. Qb3 would have given you a sure extra pawn because of threat to b5 and e6 and black can't save 'em both
Then black enters the weak pawn-exchange on the queen side where the zwischenzug exf4 Bxf4 and then a6 would have sufficed to hold blacks position.
Then until move 26 a good game from you with some minor inaccuracies. On move 26 you missed 26. Bb5 Qf3 27. Qg4 Qxg4 28. hxg4 Nxg3 29. Bxc6 Nxe4 with clear advantage for you and the possible continuation Ne7+
On move 27 the same chances applies Bb5 with the same theme but without the Ne7+ continuation
The last chance to win was probably as you said 45. Kc4 but even then only when played correctly.
Interesting to me is that black didn't try 47. .. Ke3 which should lead to a win-position for black. 48. Kc3 Nxa4 49. Kb3 Nb6 50. Kc3 Kf4 51. Be6 Kxf4
Otherwise you probably shouldn't have exchangeg queens but play 30. Qc8+ and maybe find a way to break open some file
|Jun-09-06|| ||Henrik S. Hansen: Thanks for the comments, boris, very helpful. I will look over the game again. BTW, I had to make three posts, I was told that the post was too long!?|
|Jun-09-06|| ||WannaBe: <Henrik S. Hansen> Yeah, when you use the figurine notation, it adds extra HTML codes. Because those are not text. But if you post the same PGN using plain text, it would fit into one post.|
(Plus, by using plain text, other people can copy the PGN and do their own analysis if they wish. I can't copy/paste the figurine notation into my chess engine. =)
|Jun-09-06|| ||Henrik S. Hansen: OK, I will from now on post just the plain text. Figurine is not so smart then after all. :)|
|Apr-08-07|| ||bobdog64: Hi All
Ive just faced the KIA for the first time and wondered what is the best way to play against it - any recommendations?
|Apr-08-07|| ||nescio: <Ive just faced the KIA for the first time and wondered what is the best way to play against it - any recommendations?>|
An unanswerable question. As in all openings there are many good methods and it depends on your preferences and perhaps partly on the systems you play with black against 1.e4, 1.d4 and 1.c4.
Personally I like to steer the game in the direction of the 1.e4 c5 and 1.c4 c5 systems like this:
J Rodriguez vs Taimanov, 1967
Here are some other ideas:
Sullivan vs Ivanchuk, 1986
Savon vs Spassky, 1961
Hug vs Spassky, 1973
G Barcza vs Ivkov, 1960
G Cerda vs W Arencibia, 2005
Bronstein vs Keres, 1957
Filip vs Petrosian, 1956
|Apr-08-07|| ||gambitfan: I am also facing a King's Indian Attack right now, and for the second time with the same opponent from Turkey... http://www.playchess.de/games/HCL-E...|
Here is my first "King's Indian Attack" game: http://www.playchess.de/games/HCL-B...
I created a special collection dedicated to KIA: Game Collection: KING'S INDIAN ATTACK
I made use of the wonderful Opening Explorer which IMHO gives very correct answers to the KIA.
Typical position reached: Opening Explorer
1. g3 d5 2. f3 f6 3. g2 c6 4. O-O g4 5. d3 bd7 6. bd2 e5 7. e4
click for larger view
Black to play
In conclusion, I am not so much worried with the King's Indian Attack... Only an exceptionally brilliant player like Bobby Fischer or Garri Kasparov can afford to play this opening with reasonable winning chances...
|Apr-08-07|| ||nescio: <gambitfan: I am not so much worried with the King's Indian Attack... Only an exceptionally brilliant player like Bobby Fischer or Garri Kasparov can afford to play this opening with reasonable winning chances...>|
Against you? Apparently you are an awfully strong grandmaster.
|Apr-10-07|| ||justdig: I've played this a few times, and the first moves often go:
1 Nf3 d5 2 g3 Bg4
What would you suggest as a response to Bg4?
If the knight does get taken (say, 3 Bg2 Bxf3 4 Bxf3 ..), any suggestions on where to go from there? (I know there's a lot of choice)
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