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|May-24-03|| ||clifford: I love this opening for white |
|Feb-13-04|| ||marcus13: Me i prefer it for black. I am in this part of chees player that love to have a big and solid pawn center. |
|Jul-21-04|| ||JoshuaJ8588: This position for white is just great. I have won many games in this position when i play KIA with this set up. |
|Mar-09-05|| ||zookeeper48: What is the kings indian attack called if you open with e4 |
|Mar-09-05|| ||euripides: <zookeeper> usually 'pathetic' - sorry sorry I couldn't resist .... |
|Mar-09-05|| ||zookeeper48: I must play the easy one, my win percentage is 75-76, so does anyone know what it is called, and why would it be pathetic, can you show me the problem with it. |
|Mar-09-05|| ||jperr75108: <zookeeper> there is no problem with it. I remember using it once in the Denker to draw with a 2300. The only small con is it should not be played when one NEEDS a win. |
|Apr-24-05|| ||Jamespawn: This looks like a complicated. What is the strategy of this opening? A patzer like me would have a hard time trying to understand the ideas behind this opening.|
|Jun-11-05|| ||Cecil Brown: <Jamespawn> Have a look at:-|
It may be useful to you.
|Sep-25-05|| ||elh: If you open with 1. e4, playing the King's Indian Attack is called... "stupid". Except against some of the semi-open defences like French. But if you want to play KIA, you should open 1. Nf3, anything else allows an early e4 by black.|
|Sep-25-05|| ||GBKnight: As a player of the French Defence as black the sight of white playing 2d3 (after 1 e4 e6) is irritating, but once you realise that you will not get to play your pet Winawer, you just settle down to a big pawn storm on the queenside, or a nice unbalanced game with queenside castling for black - the Kings Indian Attack is not a forced win for white ! Its not that popular at GM level, but is at club level.|
|Mar-20-06|| ||notyetagm: The correct way to play the KIA versus the French:
[White "Victor Ciocaltea"]
[Black "Julius Kozma"]
1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 c5 4.Ngf3 Nc6 5.g3 Nf6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.O-O O-O 8.Re1 Qc7 9.e5 Nd7 10.Qe2 b5 11.Nf1 a5 12.h4 b4 13.Bf4 Ba6 14.Ne3 Ra7 15.h5 Rc8 16.h6 g6 17.Nxd5 exd5 18.e6 Qd8 19.exf7+ Kh8 20.Ne5 Nf6 21.Nxc6 Rxc6 22.Qe5 Rd6 23.Bxd5 Bb5 24.Bg5 Bc6 25.Bxc6 1-0
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Note the presence of two White killer pawns, the h6- and f7-pawns. Kasparov said that pawns attacking the enemy king count as pieces and he sure looks right in this position.
|Jul-11-06|| ||notyetagm: Could some KIA specialist please point out a model game in the <Reversed Grunfeld> that arises after the moves|
1 ♘f3 d5 2 g3 c5 3 ♗g2 ♘c6 4 d4!?
GM John Emms says in his excellent Starting Out: KIA that some Black players do not play this move order -precisely- to avoid this <Reversed Grunfeld> but then he gives no examples of why Black does not want to face this line.
|Jul-11-06|| ||who: You can ask Keene. Keene vs Nunn, 1970|
|Oct-09-06|| ||Loisp: a way to bear rybka 2.1c 32bit with KIA . on move 25 it understands the innevitable checkmate and starts giving up pieces. white is a friend of mine (1850 elo)who is beating most engines with this trick if they play 2...e6.played in 5'+1'' blitz under shredder classic 2 gui on celeron D 2.8GHz under w2k sp4|
D - RYBKA 2.1C [A08]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d3 Nc6 4.g3 d5 5.Nbd2 Nf6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.0-0 0-0 8.Re1 b5 9.e5 Nd7 10.Nf1 a5 11.h4 b4 12.N1h2 Qc7 13.Bf4 a4 14.Qe2 a3 15.b3 Ba6 16.Ng5 Nd4 17.Qh5 h6 18.Ng4 hxg5 19.hxg5 g6 20.Qh3 Rfd8 21.Nf6+ Nxf6 22.gxf6 Bf8 23.Kh2 Bb5 24.Rh1 Nf5 25.Kg1 Bh6 26.Bxh6 Nxg3 27.fxg3 Qxe5 28.Bg7 Qh5 29.Qxh5 gxh5 30.Rxh5 Bxd3 31.Rh8# 1-0
|Feb-27-07|| ||hicetnunc: Hello ! I have some nomenclature problems with ECO here : can someone explain how to make the split between A08 and C00 games ?|
I understand that B40 is when white plays d3 and black plays c5 without d5
|Feb-27-07|| ||Eric Schiller: ECO is a poorly designed mess. Transpositions are a major problem, but in general ECO is obsessed with what used to be main line openings and there is no flexibility, so the system can't be repaired. Use position searches instead of ECO.|
|Mar-10-07|| ||Armakov: I am presently developing a repertoire with the KIA using Fritz 10. 1.Nf3 is the best first move, because it creates an air of mystique in the opening, surprising your opponent, as they are not sure what you are up to. However, my repertoire follows the same opening line for approx. 95% of whatever Black does. The move order is: 1.Nf3, 2.g3, 3.Bg2, 4.0-0, 5.d3, 6.Nbd2, 7.e4. Ironically, Fritz gives 7.c4 a slight edge over 7.e4. in analysis. But I have learned that 7.e4 leads to more tactical advantages. The KIA can be quite forgiving if you make a 'not so good move', or even drop a piece. You can often recover or hold your ground because the postions that arise are solid and flexible. This opening is alot of fun to play. Strange that it is not played more often at GM level, as it is full of tricks and traps.|
|Mar-10-07|| ||elLocoEvans: The KIA is just great, and many black players understimate it just to find later the counterstrike it gives. Maybe fritz takes into consideration his sintetic 'positional' understanding when giving 7.c4 a slight edge over 7.e4, mantaining the long diagonal open for his 'indian' bishop.|
|Jun-11-07|| ||ongyj: I hope it's not 2 late for me to indulge in the KIA! But just a short query on the symmetrical nature should Black keep trying to mirror- it seems that 1.Nf3 2.g3 3.Bg2 4.0-0 Black looks okay to mirror, at least until that point. Anyone knows of a few tricks to prevent the eternal mirror by Black? Thanks in advance.|
|Jun-11-07|| ||MaxxLange: there aren't any|
|Jun-11-07|| ||ganstaman: Yes, there is one technique that I know of: 1. Nf3 Nf6 2. g3 g6 3. Bg2 Bg7 4. 0-0 0-0 and now either 5. e4 (black probably plays 5...Nxe4 and not 5. e5) or the more forceful 5. d4 d5 6. Qd3 Qd6 7. Qxg6.|
|Jun-14-07|| ||ongyj: Hmm... Anyway, in the pictoral position after 1.Nf3 d5 2.g3 c5 3.Bg2 what's White's plan if Black tries something like 3...f6, probably with an intended 4...e5? Thanks in advance for helpin a newbie in this line. ^Ô^|
|Jun-14-07|| ||ganstaman: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...|
My first instinct would be to play 4. d4 and pray the hypermodernists got it right after 4...cxd4 5. Nxd4 e5, which looks to me like some sort of reversed and half-mirror-imaged Grunfeld.
However, 4. c4 attempts to transpose into a reverse Benoni with the move ...f6 (or a Benoni with f3 when not in reverse). I like the way this looks, but the Benoni doesn't look good to everyone.
|Jun-15-07|| ||MaxxLange: <what's White's plan if Black tries something like 3...f6, probably with an intended 4...e5? >|
playing the Samisch reversed against your KID reversed? I'd probably just let him.
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