page 1 of 70; games 1-25 of 1,728  Game   Result Moves Year Event/Locale Opening 1. Hencko vs Konkolsky   1-0 41 1870 Postal A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 2. Rubinstein vs Tarrasch ½-½ 60 1914 St Petersburg A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 3. Carls vs Flamberg   ½-½ 49 1914 Mannheim A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 4. Carls vs W John   0-1 34 1920 Goteborg B A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 5. Carls vs Gruenfeld   1-0 39 1920 Goteborg B A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 6. Tartakower vs Gruenfeld   ½-½ 26 1921 Vienna m4 A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 7. Carls vs Bogoljubov ½-½ 58 1925 Baden Baden A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 8. Rubinstein vs C C Brooks   0-1 27 1925 30-board Simul A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 9. O Antze vs Saemisch 1-0 31 1926 Hannover A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 10. Carls vs Bogoljubov ½-½ 46 1927 Bremen GER A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 11. G A Thomas vs Colle 0-1 47 1930 Frankfurt A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 12. J Gudmundsson vs Prokes 0-1 31 1930 Hamburg ol (Men) A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 13. I Mazel vs Lisitsin   ½-½ 27 1931 USSR Championship A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 14. Szabo vs J Balogh   ½-½ 19 1935 Tatatovaros it A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 15. P Vaitonis vs I Pleci 0-1 36 1935 Warsaw ol (Men) A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 16. P Vaitonis vs Szabo   1-0 32 1935 Olympiad A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 17. Kashdan vs J Belson   1-0 34 1935 USA-36.Congress Masters A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 18. M L Hanauer vs W Adams   1-0 43 1936 US Championship A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 19. Kevitz vs Dake   ½-½ 68 1936 US Championship A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 20. L Abramavicius vs Gilg ½-½ 14 1936 Munich ol (Men) A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 21. P Vaitonis vs D Danchev   1-0 54 1936 Munich Olympiad A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 22. H Pogorielly vs L Roedl   0-1 35 1936 Munich Olympiad A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 23. F Zita vs S Petursson   1-0 29 1937 7th olm final A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 24. Szabo vs M Riello   ½-½ 37 1937 7th olm final A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto 25. Kashdan vs I A Horowitz   ½-½ 43 1938 Ch USA A29 English, Four Knights, Kingside Fianchetto  page 1 of 70; games 1-25 of 1,728    REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)

< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 1 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing> Oct-04-04    Knight13: I've played this Opening since 2004. It was a good Opening. 4... B-QKt5 would have been followed in my game. I still like this Opening moves. Dec-19-04    filipecea: B-QKt5 ?? Dec-19-04    EnglishOpeningc4: 4...Bb4.4...B-QKt5 is old notation Dec-19-04    ruylopez900: I'm thinking of adopting this as my main defense as Black to the English. Any suggestions from those who play the white side? Dec-19-04    tomh72000: <4...B-QKt5> is technically not the best descriptive notation. 4...B-N5 would is sufficient. Dec-19-04    Willem Wallekers: I refuse to read descriptive notation. Dec-19-04    tomh72000: <Willem Wallekers> Surely there are worst things in the world? I would much rather use descriptive than for example the "1.e2-e4 e7-e5 2.Ng1-f3" style, which I find effective only at inducing headaches and nausea. Dec-19-04    Minor Piece Activity: Lol both induce nausea for me. ;) It's not hard to learn descriptive but algebraic is so much more common today and somewhat better IMO. <Ruy> I used to play the English at one point and this is a great defense, probably one of the best. Black has very good dynamic chances in this line especially if he decides to play Bb4 and go into a formation similar to the Nimzo but better IMHO because white doesn't have d4 in. Kasparov vs Karpov, 1987 is the classic example and went a long way in developing the theory for this opening. You can play d6 and block in your bishop if you really don't want to give up the bishop pair but it's not in the spirit of this line and isn't very good either. You can also play d5 instead which is a lot more aggressive (ends up in a sort of reverse Sicilian Dragon) but I've found that black's position is a bit loose, might not be that great against a good player who knows what he is doing. Dec-20-04    An Englishman: Good Evening: Ruy Lopez, this is potentially an excellent choice vs. the English, as Black can to some extent dictate the course of events. White can't really vary without allowing equality; for example, 3.g3 is strongly met by 3...c6. If you are good at keeping your minor pieces active, and if you are good at exploiting pawn weaknesses, and if you are good at defusing the potential menace of the two Bishops, *and* you can learn a lot of theory, you should have excellent results. Dec-20-04    EnglishOpeningc4: <Ruy> this variation is a strong one for black, but I think the variation where black plays ...f5 before developing his knight is better Dec-20-04    EnglishOpeningc4: N McDonald-Thipsay Lloyds Bank London 1986 1.c2-c4 e7-e5 2.b1-c3 b8-c6 3.g2-g3 g7-g6 4.f1-g2 f8-g7 5.g1-f3 d7-d6 6.d2-d3 f7-f5 7.0-0 g8-f6 8.c1-g5 h7-h6 9.g5xf6 d8xf6 10.c3-d5 f6-f7 11.b2-b4 0-0 12.a1-b1 g6-g5 13.a2-a4 c6-d8 14.b4-b5 c7-c6 15.d5-b4 c8-e6 16.f3-d2 a8-c8 17.d2-b3 g5-g4 18.b5xc6 b7xc6 19.b3-a5 f7-d7 20.b4-a6 f5-f4 21.g2-e4 d7-f7 22.a6-b4 d6-d5 23.e4-h1 f4-f3 24.e2xf3 g4xf3 25.f1-e1 e6-g4 26.b4-c2 d5-d4 27.c4-c5 d8-e6 28.a5-c4 f7-h5 29.b1-b7 e6-g5 30.h2-h4 g5-h3+ 31.g1-f1 g7-f6 32.e1-e4 f6xh4 33.c4xe5 h3xf2 34.g3xh4 f2xe4 35.d3xe4 g4-h3+ 36.f1-g1 f3-f2+ 37.g1-h2 h5xd1 38.c2xd4 d1xh1+ 39.h2xh1 f2-f1+ 40.h1-h2 f1-g2# 0-1 Dec-20-04    ruylopez900: Thanks to all who responded and to Minor Piece Activity for providing the educating game. Dec-21-04    KKW: DO you guys know any good responses for white after 1. c4 c5 Dec-22-04    ruylopez900: <KKW> You might wand to try the page with c4 c5 played. However I've always known the four knights variation there (ie the diagram above with black pawn from e5 to c5. good luck with finding the information. Dec-23-04    KKW: Thanks a lot! Jul-10-05    aaroncummings: play my aaron cummings Oct-13-05    Averageguy: I always lose against the English. Here is one game I played one and a half weeks ago. I was black and I lost horribly, and I'm not sure where I went wrong. 1.c4 e5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Nf3 Nc6 4.g3 Bc5 5.Bg2 0-0 6.0-0 d6 7.Na4 Be6 8.Nxc5 dxc5 9.b3 Nd7 10.d3 h6 11.Bb2 f5 12.e3 Qe8 13.d4 e4 14.d5 exf3 15.Bxf3 Bf7 16.dxc6 bxc6 17.Bxc6 Rd8 18.Qc2 Qe6 19. Bg2 Bh5 (a horrible blunder which I have no excuse for)20.Bd5 Resigns. I'm not sure where I went wrong, so comments on this game would be welcomed. Oct-13-05    Koster: < Averageguy > After 7. Na4 would be a good time to move forward with 7...e4 followed by Re8 and Bf5 gaining space. The e pawn cramps white and is hard to remove without trading most of white's active pieces. You don't want to give up the bishops without getting something in return. 15... Nde5 16. Bg2 Rad8, pinning white's d pawn was better than Bf7, which just loses a pawn. 19...Nf6 looks forced. White should still win but it will take a while. Oct-13-05    Averageguy: <Koster>Thanks for the comments. Dec-06-05    Waffles: This is a very powerful system for white. Black does have some very viable options, though. One option is playing an immediate d5 and after cxd5 nxd5 bg2 nb6 0-0 be7, black has a huge space advantage and its a fairly equal game. The other option is playing this line: 1.c4 e5 2.nc3 nf6 3.nf3 nc6 4.g3 bb4 4.bg2 0-0 5.0-0 e4 6.ng5 Bxc3 7.bxc3 re8 8.f3 E3! A strong pawn sacrafice that Karpov first used against Kasparov in their match. Kasparov is .5/2 against this sacrafice with the black pieces. Against this with the white pieces, I play and recommend the move 9.d4! Waffles Dec-06-05    Waffles: not a huge space advantage* just a normal space advantage.* Dec-30-05    Kwesi: Are there any games in the database where black goes for a reversed yugoslav? 1. c4 Nf6 2. Nc3 e5 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. d3 d5 5. cxd5 Nxd5 6. g3 Be6 7. Bg2 f6 8. O-O Qd7 9. Bd2 Bc5 10. Rc1 Bb6 with ...O-O-O and ...h5 in mind The games would be very interesting but maybe not so good for black due to whites extra tempo. Dec-30-05    Averageguy: <kwesi> There is only one game in the DB with 6...Be6 and that is Ragozin vs V Petrov, 1937. Dec-30-05    Kwesi: So the reversed Yugoslav Attack isn't a popular idea then =) Dec-31-05    Averageguy: <Kwesi> I guess not. < Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 1 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

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