| Aug-12-04 |
| mack: Surprised no-one has discussed the Dutch yet. It's certainly a solid option against 1.d4 if you get the move order right (if you don't it can be disasterous). I often panic in the face of 2.g4... any ideas? |
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| Aug-12-04 |
| Dudley: I like the Dutch but I'm not sure it's too solid. If you don't mind playing the French and want to play the Stonewall you can get into it by 1.d4 e6. I don't have a clue about 2.g4 but why not just take the pawn, don't try to hold it and develop quickly,perhaps castling Q side. After all, white can't castle K side either after a move like that unless he is crazy! The Dutch is distinctly unfashionable and has a poor winning % which puts most people off. However, it can be very dangerous if white doesn't know it very well. |
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| Aug-13-04 |
| TheGreatNN: Black often castles kingside after ..g5 in the KGA. I don't see why white can't caslte kingside after g4. Anyway I don't see where you develop if white plays 3.e5 or why you would give up the pawn. I would play 3. ..d5 to attack the KP and defend the pawn gained (the same move is fine if 3.Bg2, I think), and to me it looks like black just stays a pawn ahead. |
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| Aug-13-04 |
| TheGreatNN: Check out Trevor Coote vs David Ledger, 2002, where black plays the defense I mentioned above but does give up the pawn in order to open white's kingside, and also K Litkiewicz vs Thomas Paehtz, 1974, where black plays (probably better) ..d6 in order to develop the KKt. |
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| Jan-02-07 |
| AbhinavAsthana: g4 does not seem to be a good move from my perspective.
After 1.d4 e6 2.c4 f5 3. g4!?,
3...Nf6 looks good to me. |
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| Jan-02-07 |
| Karel: This line is suggested by Neil McDonald in "Starting out: Dutch Defence" in order to disrupt white's g4 party tricks 1.d4 f5 2.g4 fxg4 3.h3 g3 4.fxg3 d5 5.Nf3 Nf6 6.Bg2 e6 followed by ...Bd6 ect Black has a solid centre "h3 aims to open up lines on the kingside and gain a lead in development after 3.-gxh3 4. Nxh3?! when an attack will follow on h7 with Qd3 and Ng5, ect. But black can cross white's plan with the neat trick 3.-g3! returning the pawn in order to keep the kingside blocked and prevent white gaining a lead in development." |
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| Jan-02-07 |
| sleepkid: I'm always surprised by the fact that the Dutch have never won the World Cup. Especially during the 70's: Cruijff, Neeskens, Johnny Rep, Resenbrink, et al. |
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