page 1 of 9; games 1-25 of 210  Game   Result Moves Year Event/Locale Opening 1. Veresov vs Ilyin-Zhenevsky   0-1 25 1931 7th USSR Ch Semi-finals A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 2. P Blechschmidt vs E Kapfer 0-1 61 1932 Bad Ems GER A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 3. V Makogonov vs Alatortsev   0-1 62 1933 Tiflis A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 4. I A Horowitz vs Fine 0-1 28 1934 Match A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 5. Pirc vs Flohr   ½-½ 25 1934 Budapest A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 6. V Makogonov vs I Mazel 1-0 51 1934 USSR Championship 1934/35 A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 7. I Rabinovich vs Panov 1-0 43 1934 USSR Championship 1934/35 A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 8. B P Reilly vs Fine 1-0 40 1935 Olympiad, Warsaw (Poland) A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 9. M Raizman vs A De Burca 1-0 23 1935 Olympiad A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 10. Opocensky vs Pelikan   1-0 39 1935 Luhacovice A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 11. Fine vs Bogoljubov 1-0 36 1936 Nottingham A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 12. Chekhover vs S Pimenov   1-0 53 1936 Trade Unions A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 13. Pirc vs Keres 0-1 50 1937 Stockholm ol A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 14. Santasiere vs J Fliegel   1-0 42 1938 Boston prelim A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 15. V Makogonov vs Ilyin-Zhenevsky   ½-½ 50 1938 URS-ch sf A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 16. Vidmar vs B Tot   ½-½ 19 1938 Ljubljana A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 17. Fine vs H Steiner   1-0 37 1944 New York USA ch, USA A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 18. D Scott vs K Charlesworth   1-0 41 1946 Nottingham-B2 A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 19. Rossolimo vs Pachman 0-1 39 1947 Hilversum zt A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 20. Flohr vs Kotov 0-1 33 1949 USSR Championship A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 21. Dus Chotimirsky vs D Rovner   0-1 39 1949 URS-ch sf A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 22. O Zimmermann vs Tartakower   ½-½ 30 1949 Venice A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 23. Flohr vs D Rovner 1-0 32 1950 Ch URS (1/2 final) A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 24. Taimanov vs Korchnoi 0-1 35 1950 Leningrad A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 25. T Van Scheltinga vs Rossolimo   1-0 28 1950 Beverwijk 03 A97 Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky  page 1 of 9; games 1-25 of 210    REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)

Jul-09-03    maa: I don't like the move Qe8 i think Ndb7! is better Sep-26-04    Giancarlo: 7..Qe8 is an excellnet move preparing Qh5! Botvinnik used that tactic many a time. Nbd7 will eventually come. By the way did I happen to mention how great of an opening this is? :-) Well, not really the best line of a Dutch system... Sep-26-04    Knight13: Well... I don't like this opening. It's like having a closed attack position. Sep-27-04    Giancarlo: <knight13> sez you! Feb-04-05    Dillinger: Zhenevsky is more common and phoenetically accurate spelling. Feb-04-05    RisingChamp: Anyone who knows the Dutch,is the Ilyin-Zhenevsky better or the Leningrad,if so any explanations please?I am a 2000 player who is changing to the Dutch against d4 and I am taking up the Leningrad so advice would be welcome. Feb-04-05    DP12: Knowing nothing about this line, the first thing I noticed is that the score in this line is horrible for black 64-36 is not an opening I would invest serious time into learning. Feb-05-05    Dillinger: Not knowing much either, I can say that the Leningrad is much more respected and known to lead to some wild games. The Ilyin-Zhenevsky is an attempt to get a 'stonewall' type structure by seemingly shutting in all of black's pieces. Unlike the similar Sicilan Scheveningen, black has few chances for a queenside attack to develop before his kingside is completely overrun by white minor pieces. Feb-05-05    Dillinger: The more I look at this, the less it makes sense. Creating holes on the f-file without the strong counterattack that legitimizes other dutch lines. Knight13 is right, it's an attack formation with no pieces able to carry out the attack. Jan-23-06    EnglishOpeningc4: this is good but better ia ...a5 preparing ...Ne4 Apr-15-06    Mating Net: The key element when playing the Dutch is the pawn advance e4 and ...e5. If Black can play ...e5, and nothing bad happens, he will equalize. If White plays e4 and Black can't reply ...e5, he is doomed. For those reasons, I prefer to play ...7Ne4 instead of the ...7Qe8 listed on the page. Black will still play the Queen to e8-h5 maneuver to get his kingside attack rolling, but I like the Knight hopping to e4 right away. An early ...Ne4 makes it harder for White to prep his e4 push and it vacates the f6 square for the Bishop, which in turn supports Black's ...e5 push. L Pantsulaia vs C Hanley, 2003 illustrates these themes. Apr-26-06    Silman: Everything <Mating Net> said is 100% correct. Sounds like he may have the same book by Simon Williams that I have, the first to my knowledge which recommends 7..., Ne4; Apr-27-06    Mating Net: <Silman> Thanks for the endorsement. Ys, I do have the Williams book on the Classical Dutch. It's a really good book. Williams lays out the main concepts and ideas for Black extremely well, which is what I want from an opening book. As for the early ...Ne4, this approach is by far the most sensible to me. Unfortunately, it is the shortest chapter in the book. Perhaps this is due to its relative newness. Feb-07-12    Penguincw: Opening of the Day Dutch, Ilyin-Genevsky 1.d4 f5 2.c4 f6 3.g3 e6 4.g2 e7 5.f3 O-O 6.O-O d6 7.c3 e8 click for larger view

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