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|Dec-10-05|| ||ksadler: The idea is usually to prevent White from pushing a5 himself winning the Knight on b6 (Opening Explorer )|
|Jan-17-06|| ||unsound: I was stunned the other day when I played Alekhine's only to wind up with the black pieces in a Blackmar-Diemer Gambit, about which I know nothing. The game opened 1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 (I wasn't interested in a Vienna Game) 3.d4 dxe4 4.f3. This wasn't a possibility that had occurred to me before (and I doubt it comes up too often in master play). I'm not sure whether to try, in the future, to steer toward a Pirc after Nc3 with 2...d6 instead or just go and do some Blackmar-Diemer homework.|
|Jan-17-06|| ||keypusher: <unsound> I think <tpstar> pointed this out somewhere -- a good alternative is 3...Nxe4! avoiding the normal Blackmar-Diemer. If White tries to play B-D style (4 Nxe4 de 5 f3) 5...e5! is strong.|
G Baete vs I Timmermans, 2001
|Jan-17-06|| ||unsound: Cool, thanks <keypusher> (and <tpstar>).|
|Feb-23-06|| ||Cogano: Hello <ksadler> & I sincerely hope this
finds you well. I only just came across your profile. I AM CANADIAN too! ;) I live in Toronto. Maybe we can get together for a game sometime, if you're
close-by. If you live only a couple of hours from me, I could still come up (there's plenty in Ontario & Canada itself I've never been to yet). But it'll have to wait, as I'm no fan of winter or bitter cold! Anyway, just a thought. I hope I'm not being too presumptuous or jumping the gun here. Take very good care & have yourself a most joyous day, every day. Cheers mate! :)|
|Apr-12-06|| ||ongyj: Dear chessgames.com community, recently I'd played a match. Nowadays I don't really play often, like say once every 6 months LOL. Evidently I was rusty. Hope to receive any forms of criticisms thanks.|
White- an 18 year old teen.
Venue: A classroom
1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.exd5 Nxd5 4.Ne4 Bf5 5.d3 e6 6.g3 Nd7 7.Bg2 c6 8.Ne2 Be7 9.Nf4 0-0 10.0-0 Ne5 11.Re1 Ng6 12.Nxg6 Bxg6 13.b3 Bxe4 14.dxe4 Bb4 15.exd5 Bxe1 16.Qxe1 cxd5 17.Qe2 Re8 18.Qg4 Qf6 19.Rb1 Rc8 20.Bb2 e5 21.f4 Qb6+ 22.Kh1 Rxc7 23.Bxe5 f6 24.Bxd5+ Kh8 25.Bb2 Qf2 26.Qh3 Re8+ White resigns.
|Apr-12-06|| ||AgentRgent: corrections: 19...Rac8 and 26...Re1+|
|Apr-13-06|| ||ongyj: <AgentRgent> That was fast. Thanks. Definitely a sign of unfamilarity, too used to looking from White's point of view :)|
|Apr-13-06|| ||Cogano: Hello <ongyj> & I sincerely hopes this finds you well. :) Here's another correction: It should read 22...Rxc2. Otherwise, it was a good game, albeit unusual. White's playing was let's just say erratic! Good luck on your openings venture. :) Take very good care & have a great day. :) Cheers mate! :)|
|Apr-13-06|| ||ongyj: <Cogano> Thanks... that was fast, short and sweet:) Like I said, I'm too used to looking at the White side of the board to even provide correct annotations... Thanks again for your encouragement on the openings venture...|
|Apr-13-06|| ||Cogano: Hello again <ongyj> & I sincerely hopes this finds you well. :) No problem. Glad to be of help. I too would love to have the kind of opening "how-to" guide. But I prefer to start with some training first (good books & X # of games). Also, I'd then have to get premium membership here to make the most of openings & maximize my ability to create such a guide! Anyway, a belated most warm welcome to chessgames.com & good luck on all your projects. Take very good care & I'll see you around. Cheers mate! :)|
|May-23-06|| ||cuendillar: A miniature of mine
1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.e5 Nfd7 4.d4 c5 5.dxc5 e6 6.Nf3 Bxc5 7.Bd3 Nc6 8.Bf4 a6 9.0-0 Nb4 10.Be2 Qc7 11.Bg3 b6 12.a3 Nc6 13.Nxd5! Qb8 14.Re1 Ndxe5? 15.Nxe5 Nxe5 16.Bxe5 Qxe5 17.Bb5+ 1-0
|May-23-06|| ||dehanne: opponent(1650)-dehanne : 1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.c4 Nb6 4.c5 Nd5 5.Bc4 e6 6.d4 b6 7.Bxd5 exd5 8.b4 a5 9.Nc3 Bb7 10.bxa5 bxc5 11.Qb3 Bc6 12.dxc5 Na6 13.Nxd5 Nxc5 14.Qc4 Rxa5 15.Ne3 Bb5 16.Qc3 Nd3+ 17.Kd2 Bb4 0-1|
|May-23-06|| ||AgentRgent: <cuendillar> Nice tactics, though I think the game would more likely be considered a French Defense (transposed) rather than an Alekhine's Defense. |
For any other Alekhine's players, unless you like the French, I suggest 3...Ne4 in this line.
|Jun-04-06|| ||ganstaman: So I'm trying to learn the Alekhine's Defense, but it's not easy getting the other guys to cooperate. So far, I've faced 1.e4 twice. First game started 1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3. I realize that 2...d5 is the Alekhine-type move, but I'm not so sure how much I like that move just yet, so I played 2...d6, transposing into the Pirc, which I have a lot of recent experience with. I feel this is a fair comprimise. Instead of me deciding to play the Alekhine or the Pirc, both of which I like the look of, I let my opponent's move order decide.|
Second game went 1.e4 Nf6 2.Bc4?! I wasn't aware that this was even possible. I thought there may be some trap in the straightforward 2...Nxe4, but now it looks to me that it simply wins a pawn for black. Instead, we continued 2...d5 3.exd5 Nxd5 4.Qf3 e6 5.Qg3 Qd6 and his queen ran a bit more and got chased. Anyone have any experience with this line? I see there are games in the database with 2.Bc4, so it can't be too bad, right?
Also, I've started to look through Lev Alburt's games, because he plays the Alekhine a lot and I've heard of him. Have any of you found any particular player's games to be especially instructive in how to handle this defense? Thanks.
|Jun-04-06|| ||nescio: <ganstaman: Have any of you found any particular player's games to be especially instructive in how to handle this defense? Thanks.>|
I remember Bagirov and Vaganian used to play it and win with it regularly. Don't know if any young player has picked up the Alyekhin defence. Perhaps Mamedyarov?
|Jun-04-06|| ||Ziggurat: <ganstaman> I like Fischer's games (as black) in this opening. Spassky vs Fischer, 1972, Suttles vs Fischer, 1970, Minic vs Fischer, 1970 are instructive. Browne vs Fischer, 1970 is also nice although Fischer mishandles it a bit there.|
|Jun-04-06|| ||Ziggurat: <ganstaman> By the way, the "point" of 1 e4 Nf6 2 Bc4 is 2 ... Nxe4 3 Bxf7+ Kxf7 4 Qh5+ regaining the piece with the next check. However this is not to be feared from Black's perspective. Just take the e4 pawn!|
|Jun-04-06|| ||keypusher: <Ganstaman> Baburin plays it a lot. Alburt is definitely a good player from the previous generation to study. Bagirov was the great exponent of my own favorite, 1. e4 Nf6 2. e5 Nd5 3. d4 d6 4. Nf3 Bg4, while Kengis plays the more up-to-date 4....de 5. Nxe5 g6.|
Generally speaking I think openings books are a waste of time and money, but I really like John Cox's <starting out: alekhine's defence>, published by Everyman chess. Very user-friendly and a good teacher of themes.
I looked at my Alekhines at GameKnot: White played 2. e5 26 times and 2. Nc3 ten times. I don't think you'll see 2. Bc4 that much...as <Ziggurat> says it's nothing to worry about anyway.
|Jun-04-06|| ||ksadler: Hi <ganstaman>! If you are looking for information on Alekhine's Defense, check out my site (http://www.geocities.com/alekhine_g...) and the following game collections: Game Collection: Alekhine's Defense Miniatures/Brilliancies , Game Collection: Historically Important Alekhine's Defense Games , and Game Collection: Kirk Sadler's Alekhine Defense Repetoire .|
|Jun-04-06|| ||ganstaman: Wow, thanks everyone. Lots of good stuff to check out.|
I see how black is looking good after 1.e4 Nf6 2.Bc4 Nxe4 3.Bxf7+ Kxf7 4.Qh5+ g6 5.Qd5+ e6 6.Qxe4 and black fianchetto's his bishop and manually castles. Meanwhile, white has given up the bishop pair for no compensation, isn't ahead in development, and will likely need to move the queen again. So this is good for black. What do you think of 2...d5 though?
<ksadler> I've actually had your site bookmarked for a long time (I planned on learning the Alekhine's Defense but then gave up on it). I should actually go through it now. Thanks for having such a useful site!
|Jun-06-06|| ||ganstaman: <ksadler> and all: I am intrigued by the Brooklyn Variation (1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Ng8). In this database, it doesn't do so great, but you say that it scores over 50% for black in some databases. Do you happen to have a collection of games in this variation, either on this site, in a pgn, or just as a link to some other online database? I too am too scared to try it out, at least until I can see how others make it work.|
|Jun-06-06|| ||ganstaman: Well I just found that these were posted some time ago: http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches...|
However, black doesn't do so well here (white wins 13, black wins 3, 4 are drawn). There must be more games if anyone plays this. Well, 20 games in 95 years; I guess no one really does play it :-/
|Jun-06-06|| ||ganstaman: Oh yeah, I also wanted to know if anyone knows how the Brooklyn Variation got its name, and if increasing my post count makes me look cooler?|
|Jun-06-06|| ||jamesmaskell: It depends the substance of your posts. If you are posting rubbish just to increase your post count, you will be rightly branded a post-@#$%*. On the other hand if you are getting involved with debates and sharing your chessical experience then you should be alright.|
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