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|Feb-14-04|| ||Taidanii: You know, most openings tend to have theory behind them. Theory that would justify using the opening. Can anyone tell me the theory for White in this one? |
|Feb-14-04|| ||Benjamin Lau: To give black an easy game. ;-) (To proponents of this system, don't kill me, I'm only joking, sort of ;-) |
|Mar-01-04|| ||Shad0wl0rd16: lol the eco code for this opening is B52 |
|Mar-01-04|| ||OneBadDog: I can't stand it when people play this stuff as white. As far as I'm concerned, all the fun stuff is in the more theoretical lines. |
|Mar-02-04|| ||drukenknight: yes of course. SInce you play it as black you want us to play that stuff. Have you seen many Kings Indian formations for white w/ this? You could retreat the B all the way back to f1 although that would be unusual. |
|Mar-02-04|| ||PaulKeres: <Can I have some advice please!> What plan to go for in the following (as white): <1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bxd7+ Nxd7 6. d4 cxd4 7. Qxd4 e6 8. 0-0 Nf6 9. Bg5 Be7 10. e5 dxe5 11. Nxe5 Nxe5 12. Qxe5 Qd6 13. Qxd6 Bxd6 14. Bxf6 gxf6>. I feel as white I had the edge here, but I lost it, to my irritation. Also does anyone have advice on how to improve ones middlegame? I'm poor in the middle game, after usually doing quite well in the opening.
Also if anyone wants to know how the game actually progressed (i.e that fancy a good laugh at what white actually did) then let me know. |
|Mar-02-04|| ||boordgamer: LOL, the same Paul Keres along with Alexander Kotov who wrote "The Art of the Middle Game"?I am learning a lot from that book by the way. |
|Mar-02-04|| ||PaulKeres: <boordgamer>, no ofcourse not the same Paul Keres, he's dead! Any advice of how to preceed then (Advance the pawns, centralise the rooks?), or tips from the book? |
|Mar-02-04|| ||boordgamer: Oh hes dead,sorry,God rest his soul.At first glance looks very drawish,Ill have to really study it to see what advantage white can get out of it,should be interesting.Ill post what I came up with later... |
|Mar-02-04|| ||PaulKeres: Thank you ever so much, it will be very useful anything you come out with. I was hoping that the pawn structure for black might lead to some problems and a won end game for white, but I know that it might not be all that easy. Should white try to advance pawns down the K side or Q side? I guess exchanging pieces would help White? don't know, it was very hard to make a plan. I messed about with my knight, trying to get something, it didn't work - the wrong plan I think. I reckon advancing Q side pawns carefully might be the best way, can also turn attention back to K side when Blacks not looking ;) |
|Mar-02-04|| ||boordgamer: Ok Paul,first let me start off by saying, if 7...e7e5 it would have cost you a tempo being the queen really has no safe retreat except back to d1, the recapture with the kt would have been better. Anyhow, at this point I would maintain initiative by 15.c3e4 d6e5 16.a1d1 e8e7 (if 16...e5xb2, then 17.d1b1 b2e5 18.b1xb7 and the c-pawn will be a problem for black although probably not enough to muster a win.) After 16...e8e7 17.c2c3 b7b6 18.f2f4 e5c7 19.f4f5 c7e5 20.f1f3 h8g8 21.g2g3 g8g4 22.e4f2 g4a4 23.a2a3 a4c4 24.f3e3 e6xf5 25.d1d4 c4c6 26.d4h4 a8d8 27.e3e2 c6e6 28.h4xh7 f5f4 29.g1g2 f4xg3 30.h2xg3 e5c7 31.e2xe6+ e7xe6 32.f2e4 f6f5 33.e4g5+ e6f6 34.h7xf7+ f6xg5 35.f7xc7 d8d2+ 36.g2f3 d2xb2 37.a3a4 b2a2 38.c7c4 a2d2 39.c4c6 d2d3+ 40.f3f2 a6a5 41.c6xb6 d3xc3 42.b6a6 c3a3(draw) |
|Mar-02-04|| ||boordgamer: I am not anywhere near the level of a Keres or a Kotov, but I just dont see this becoming decisive for white. As far as middle game tips,there is just so much to say I dont no where to begin. If anyone is good at explaining these principles in a nutshell please feel free, I would be interested to know also. |
|Mar-02-04|| ||PaulKeres: Thanks <boordgamer>, in some ways I feel a little better knowing that it was probably a drawn position. Of course u r right about 7. Qxd4 being dubious given 7...e5, should have taken with the Knight. I shall look at your moves in detail later.
So do you like the Sicilian, if so what variations? |
|Mar-02-04|| ||boordgamer: To tell you the truth I am just starting to make the sicilian my primary defence. I like the lines which have many sub-variations,f.e.,Sveshnikov,Najdorf:Fischer and main line variation.I plan to master these and move on.I am interested in the Nimzovitch defence,grand prix attack,dragon,and the Gurgenidze,all variations I plan to look into more deeply pretty soon. |
|Mar-02-04|| ||boordgamer: While were on the discussion of middle game continuation,I need some help now.I was recently in a friendly match with my everready computer and I also reached a position I feel is superior.The opening is centre cntr. and I thought I would try the prophylactic 5.a2a3 which dident turn out as planned but none the less lead to a good middle game.1.e2e4 d7d5 2.e4xd5 d8xd5 3.b1c3 d5a5 4.d2d4 c7c6 5.a2a3 b8d7 6.g1f3 e7e5 7.d1e2 f7f6 8.c1f4 f8b4 9.f4d2 g8e7 10.a1d1 b4d6 11.c3e4 a5c7 12.e4xd6+ c7xd6 13.d2b4 d6e6 14.b4xe7 e6xe7 15.e2e3 e5e4 16.f3d2 f6f5 17.f1c4 d7b6 18.o-o b6xc4 19.d2xc4 c8e6 20.c4e5 o-o 21.f2f4 f8d8....anybody have any suggestions,who do think has the better position. How do you exploit the kt to its fullest extent? |
|Mar-02-04|| ||OneBadDog: < boordgamer > I like the Be3 lines of the Sicilian from both sides. It takes a lot of guts to play these lines. |
|Mar-02-04|| ||BiLL RobeRTiE: You mean the English / Yugoslav / Velimirovic Attacks? They certainly are hard and fun to play =] Of course Be3 just doesn't cut it in some variations (the Sveshnikov comes to mind) but where it does I find that it's nice to have the bishop there supporting the center and ready to jump to basically anywhere. I like both sides of these lines too! |
|Mar-02-04|| ||OneBadDog: The Sveshnikov is a whole different animal. I think it rivals the Najdorf in terms of complexity. There are some positions that are just pure tactics. |
|Mar-03-04|| ||BiLL RobeRTiE: Yeah, the Svesh sure is unique. =] |
|Mar-03-04|| ||OneBadDog: <Also does anyone have advice on how to improve ones middlegame? I'm poor in the middle game, after usually doing quite well in the opening.>|
The opening and middle game are closely related to each other. Improvement in the middle game depends on what your strengths and weaknesses are. If tactics are your weakness, reading The Art Of Attack In Chess in conjunction with a book like 1001 Chess Sacrifices And Combinations would help you. If strategic play is your weakness, then something like Pawn Structure Chess or Judgement And Planning In Chess would probably be best. If you have a hard time figuring out what to the best plan is once the opening is over, you can look at Everyman Chess Starting Out series.
|Mar-03-04|| ||PaulKeres: Thanks everyone for your responses. <boordgamer>, I am also just starting to use the Sicilian as my defence, before I used 1...e5 classically. Hmmmm, <prophylactic thinking>, something I'm interested in, because I don't do nearly enough of it! Wasn't Karpov the expert in this? |
|Mar-03-04|| ||PaulKeres: I wonder whether your opening develops as you're level of opponent develops. For example, I am starting to consider the Sicilian now as Black because I face it myself as white such a lot. You certainly notice that beginners play entirely different opening from more advanced players. I find d4 players tend to be more experienced (either that or just scared of the sicilian ;) !) Also Kings indian lines and/or hypermodern openings tend to be used more by more advanced players and not by less experienced players.
I think it is sensible to play openings which suit the level you are at, ie mainly you should not perhaps play into openings that you cannot cope with before your game can take it (eg closed games, or grunfeld). A good site with these types of views is http://www.ex.ac.uk/~dregis/DR/Open... |
|Mar-03-04|| ||PaulKeres: <The opening and middle game are closely related to each other. >, that's good to hear < OneBadDog >, so hopefully my middle game can still improve as my opening theory does.
It is very important to know what type of play you are and develop your plan around that, however I'm not sure which type I am. I would like to be a dynamical tactical player, but in reality I might well be more of a positional player. Ofcourse getting a opening reportoire together will help a great deal, but that is easier said than done! Thanks for the book references, do you know anything good <on the web> for developing the middle game? |
|Mar-24-04|| ||ruylopez900: It drives me crazy when people play this! Not only is it drawish (check the stats at the top of the page) but it also side steps my favourite variation! The Dragon! .....or maybe that's why they do it..... |
|Mar-24-04|| ||refutor: <boardgames> why is 5.a3 prophylactic? what is it protecting against? <ruylopez900> you can still play "the dragon" v. the canal-sokolsky...just play 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bb5+ Nc6 and follow it up with ...g6, ...Bg7, ...O-O, ...Bd7 etc. that's the great thing about a dragon setup, you can play it vs. basically any anti-sicilian line |
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