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|Aug-16-05|| ||chess man: I play 6.Bc4 against just about any variation in the Sicilian and I score very well with it. You have to know what you are doing of course as with any opening and since there is just as much chance to win with Black as there is with White, it's not the kind of opening where you get away sitting around doing nothing because if you play too passively the initiative will pass to Black.|
|Aug-17-05|| ||KKW: What does white play after 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bc4 e6 7. Bb3 b5 8. 0-0 b4 ?|
|Aug-17-05|| ||Stevens: <KKW> after ...b4 just play Na4 or retreat to Nb1. You could always try playing a3 at some point to prevent ...b4 if you don't like that move. You may come up with a position that's very playable. |
|Sep-07-05|| ||FearsomePawn: <after ...b4 just play Na4 or retreat to Nb1> I think he--and I as well--want to know what to do after the risky-looking pawn grab Nxe4. I am currently rehabilitating my Open Sicilian Repetoire (I tired the Morra Gambit, but I disliked that Black can force White into the Alapin), and I am thinking of playing the Sozin against the Najdorf, so this would, of course, be a key concept to know.|
|Sep-09-05|| ||FearsomePawn: I found the answer here in this game:
Fischer vs O Gadia, 1960 and under ECO code B87:
Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin with ...a6 and ...b5 (B87)
|Sep-09-05|| ||RookFile: Think I looked this up on chessbase once and saw games going 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bc4 e6 7. Bb3 b5 8. 0-0 b4 9. Na4 Nxe4 10. Re1 with white coming out on top. I don't think it's a forced win, though.|
|Sep-09-05|| ||CGreene: <FearesomePawn> I was thinking of rehabilitating my own Open Sicilian repertoire and last weekend bought the two current books out on the English Attack (white plays f3, Be3, Qd2/g4). However, I remembered Schiller had recommended the Halasz Gambit in his book "A Gambit Opening Repertoire for White". At the time, I ignored it because I was playing the Smith-Morra but, like you, I've become disenchanted with so many Alapin declinations. |
The Halasz Gambit goes 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cd 3. f4 (with the idea of playing Nf3, Bd3, O-O, a3, b4, Nbd2/Bb2/Qe1). Schiller's lines were generally helpful, but it wasn't until I went on Chessbase.com and looked at the games. Very impressive results and original play. A fringe benefit is that it also be played against the French, making it very economical indeed (1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e4 c5 4. f4 cd 5. Nf3)
|Jan-22-07|| ||who: I assume you mean 3.e5 in your line in the French.|
|Apr-16-07|| ||Bob726: This line is terrible. Black wins slightly more than white actully. 36.3% compared to 37.0% for blkack.|
|Apr-16-07|| ||Bob726: Sicilian, Najdorf (B90) white wins almost 10 % more in that line. so bc4 is clearly bad-even if fischer liked it!|
|Apr-16-07|| ||Bob726: 10% more compared than black, i meant.|
|Jun-05-07|| ||WTHarvey: Here are some traps n zaps in Fischer-Sozin miniatures: http://www.wtharvey.com/b86.html|
|Aug-26-08|| ||refutor: is 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.Bc4 a good way to force a Najdorf or Dragon-player to play the Scheveningen?|
assuming the likely 3. ...e6 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nxd4 and what does Black have besides 5. ...Nc6 or 5. ...Nf6? after 5. ...Nf6 6.Nc3 i guess the najdorf guys can go back in with 6. ...a6 but in any case i think it's worth a try
if 3. ...Nf6 4.Nc3 followed by 5.d4 transposes back in. i guess the only thing it avoids is the Dragon? a little evening food for thought (at least for me anyways)
|Aug-26-08|| ||AnalyzeThis: I think 3. Bc4 is ok, but if black wants to play the same type of Sicilian that he otherwise would get after 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Bc4 I see an inevitable transposition.|
|Sep-28-08|| ||Octal: How easy is it a 6 Bc4 Najdorf/Scheveningen to transpose into a Velimoric Attack?|
|Nov-06-08|| ||niemzo: <refutor> I think black can force a closed sicilian after 3..e5 preventing d4. I don't know if it's good but it could be a nice surprise weapon.|
|Jan-06-09|| ||ILikeFruits: why is...
|Jan-06-09|| ||kackhander: because...
|Jan-06-09|| ||ILikeFruits: only...
|Jan-06-09|| ||Kaspykov: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 d6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nf6 5 Nc3 a6 6 Bc4 e6|
(6... b5 is good also to prevent 7. a4 or a3 with the idea of 7... b5 Ba2)
7. Bb3 b5 is a more common choice
|Aug-11-09|| ||WhiteRook48: who is sozin here?|
|Aug-12-09|| ||Albertan: <WhiteRook48: who is sozin here?>|
<WhiteRook48> the Sozin attack is named for Soviet player Veniamin Sozin (1869-1956). He experimented with the move 6.Bc4 in the 1930's The move order 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.Bc4, first time used in 1929 by this Soviet master Veniamin Sozin. The line became famous mainly owing to Bobby Fischer who succesfully used it in 1950s and 1960s. Today, I have mostly seen this variation be called the "Fischer-Sozin" attack.
|May-06-10|| ||rapidcitychess: <refutor> So we meet again...|
Often this is called the "High School Attack" It is often met by 3...a6 Now if you enjoy the Bc4 lines against the Najdorf this is fine. But this does not force him to play the Schvenigan.
|Feb-06-11|| ||Penguincw: < Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
1. e4 c5 2. ♘f3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. ♘xd4 f6 5. ♘c3 e6 6. ♗c4 > Opening of the day.|
|Feb-24-12|| ||Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Sicilian, Fischer-Sozin Attack
1.e4 c5 2.♘f3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.♘xd4 ♘f6 5.♘c3 e6 6.♗c4
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