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|Sep-23-12|| ||thomastonk: <kitbitzer31> 8.c3! is the main line.|
|Sep-23-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Thanks <thomastonk>.... If you don't mind, can I ask you what happens after 8.c3 Bc7 9. Bxa3 Nc6? Once again, thanks for your help.|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Sorry, upon closer investigation,
Maybe 9... Ne7 is better so as to meet 10.Bd6 with 10...Bxd6 11.Nxd6+ Kf8 12.Qf3 with 12... Nf5
|Sep-24-12|| ||thomastonk: <kitbitzer31> White is in no hurry to prove the compensation for the pawn. Black has a long lasting problem with his king. If Black intends 0-0, White can simply develop Nf3, Bd3, and 0-0,
and then launch a king side attack. If Black forces White early to do something with Ba3/Nb5, then he won't be able to castle, and Black is permanently badly coordinated.|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Ah... I see.Thanks. You were very helpful. I remember a quote by Petrosian that went something like this, "Many players after sacrificing a pawn aim not to obtain the initiativefor it but to regain the sacrificed material". It certainly applies here to me. Once again, thank you for your great help..|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Once again, sorry to bother you but what would you play after 8...Bc7? Any recommendations for White? Thanks.|
|Sep-24-12|| ||haydn20: <k31> 8....Bc7 9. Bxa3 Nc6 10. Qg4 g6 11. Bd3 followed up by Nf3 0-0 and Nxc7 and White has a blistering attack with an unopposed DSB, while Black is still trying to get developed. 6...cxd4 looks a lot more sensible for Black. Maybe one of the resident stronger players has a deeper view than I.|
|Sep-24-12|| ||thomastonk: <kitbitzer31> Maybe this opening explorer can answer some of your questions: http://chessok.com/?page_id=352.|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Thanks to both <haydn20> and <thomastonk> in answering my numerous questions. Thanks or being so patient and kind to an amateur.|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: But what if 9...Ne7 instead? Then after 10.Qg4 0-0....|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: It appears to me that there is no direct refutation in the 6...cxb4 line. Most likely the line has just gone out of fashion...|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Can I play with Black against one of you with the 6...cxb4 line? Thanks.|
|Sep-24-12|| ||thomastonk: <kitbitzer31: there is no direct refutation in the 6...cxb4 line.> Well, White cannot announce a mate or does not win a piece by force, but I think that Black is clearly worse, and hence it "gone out of fashion".|
<Kitbitzer31: Can I play with Black against one of you with the 6...cxb4 line?> Where are you going to play?
|Sep-24-12|| ||whiteshark: <kibitzer31>
<1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e5 c5 5.a3 Ba5 6.b4 cxb4 7.Nb5 Nc6 8.axb4 Bxb4+ 9.c3 Be7 10.Ba3 Nh6 11.Bxe7 Qxe7 12.Nd6+ Kf8 13.Bb5 f6> is the mainline according to Fritz 11 opening book. However <13... Nf5> is the move Fritz suggested on infinitive search with <14.Nxf5 exf5>
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and now either 15.Ne2 or 15.Qb3 with only +0.2 pawns advantage.
|Sep-24-12|| ||whiteshark: And for the sake of classification, the a.m. line belongs properly spea more to French, Winawer, Advance (C17) or possibly even to C18|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: To <thomastonk>, In chesscube?|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Thanks for the help guys... I've gotten a better idea on how to play the opening thanks to you guys..|
|Sep-24-12|| ||kitbitzer31: <Whiteshark>, why 7...Nc6 and not 7...bxa3+?|
|Sep-26-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Whiteshark, any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks.|
|Sep-26-12|| ||thomastonk: <kitbitzer31: why 7...Nc6 and not 7...bxa3+?> Well, 7.. bxa3 opens the diagonal a3-f8 for the Bc1, whereas 7.. Nc6 and another book line, 7.. b3, don't.|
BTW, I don't like White's play in Fritz 11 opening book given above.
|Sep-27-12|| ||kitbitzer31: Ah. Thanks <thomastonk>..|
|Feb-18-13|| ||Tigranny: I love the French.|
|Feb-18-13|| ||parisattack: <Tigranny: I love the French.>|
I am learning to. I want to be a breed apart, also. :) List of books on the French on my forum.
|Feb-24-13|| ||2blackrooks: Hi all
I've been playing the odd rubinstein French Roll Eyes. It doesn't seem to get a good press and a lot of players think its boring. Is it possible to sex it up a bit and make it more aggressive??
I play it because it cuts down on the theory as I'm learning the game.
How does the Frere (Becker) variation hold up? 1,e4 e6. 2. d4 d5 3.Nc3/Nd2 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Qd5
Or the Ellis Gambit: 1,e4 e6. 2. d4 d5 3.Nc3/Nd2 dxe4 4. Nxe4 e5
Ellis Gambit Delayed: 1,e4 e6. 2. d4 d5 3.Nc3/Nd2 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nc6 5.Nf3 e5.
|Mar-05-13|| ||parisattack: <2blackrooks: Hi all
I've been playing the odd rubinstein French Roll Eyes. It doesn't seem to get a good press and a lot of players think its boring. Is it possible to sex it up a bit and make it more aggressive?? I play it because it cuts down on the theory as I'm learning the game.>
The Rub actually seems to be more popular than ever (relatively speaking). I've seen several articles on the so-called Fort Knox setup within the Rub.
Becker seems to be OK tho to me it looks as if black is just playing a somewhat limited Center Counter. The Ellis, on the other hand, I think you're sort of just asking for it...
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