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|Jul-20-06|| ||blueguitar322: As white, I've always disliked playing against the French Defense. Part of the reason is I can't ever seem to find a variation that offers me creative attacking chances instead of the typical closed-center strategic motifs.|
I'm looking for something that will offer me the type of game you might find in the King's Gambit (fast development and initiative), Ruy Lopez (board-wide strategy with a sharp tactical edge), etc. (I play Sicilians/KIDs as black). If it involves less theory, that's a plus.
Anyone have recommendations? Advance? Classical 3.Nc3 (maybe with an eye towards Blackmar-Diemer after 3...dxe4)? Something else? Help me out.
|Jul-20-06|| ||WannaBe: <blueguitar322> You tried the exchange? French, Exchange (C01)|
|Jul-20-06|| ||Swapmeet: <blueguitar322> If you like playing the KID defense as black, you might try the KIA against the french (1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2, with a typical KI set-up). Decent winning chances, and much less theory than most lines.|
|Sep-17-06|| ||Kwesi: Thought I might give this KI setup as white a go...
1. e4 e6
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. d3 d5
4. e5 Nfd7
5. g3 c5
6. Bg2 Nc6
7. Qe2 Be7
8. c3 h6
9. Na3 a6
10. O-O O-O
11. Nc2 b5
12. Rb1 Bb7
13. d4 cxd4
14. cxd4 Rc8
15. h4 Qa5
16. a3 Qd8
17. Rd1 Re8
18. Nh2 Qb6
19. Ng4 Rc7
20. Bxh6 gxh6
21. Nxh6+ Kg7
22. Qh5 Rf8
23. Bxd5 Na5
24. Ne3 Bd8
25. Nef5+ exf5
26. Nxf5+ Kg8
27. Qg4+ Bg5
28. Qxg5+ Qg6
29. Qxg6+ Kh8
|Nov-16-06|| ||keypusher: <blueguitar> There is always today's opening of the day, the Diemer-Duhm. It's a horrible opening, but it does lead to an open game.|
|Jan-05-07|| ||WarmasterKron: <blueguitar> Have you ever considered 2.f4?|
|Jan-07-07|| ||mack: <blueguitar> 2.Qe2 is the answer to all your woes, end of story.|
|Jan-07-07|| ||duffer: Can anyone find some good moves for White after the opening moves 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.Bd3 cd 7.cd Bd7 8.0-0 Nxd4 9.Nxd4 Qxd4 10.Nc3 Qxe5 |
It's the Advance Gambit (can't remember the proper name), and after White sacs the center pawns I can't find a convincing follow-up. I've tried to harass the Queen by 11.Re1 but after she goes to d6 I can't find anything useful. Nb5 is simply met by Qb6. Pawn to g3 is calmly answered by Nf6, whereby Black protects his d5 pawn after his Queen is attacked by the upcoming Bf4.
|Jan-16-07|| ||Haeron: Played this game for my chess club recently, me as black. I made a few mistakes, but it's a good example of the e6-weakness, although I won.|
[Event "Watford 6 vs. Hemel"]
[White "Rouiller, Ken"]
[Black "Slater-Walker, George"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 c5 4. Nf3 Nc6 5. Be3 Qb6 6. b3 cxd4 7. Bxd4
Nxd4 8. Nxd4 Bc5 9. c3 Bd7 10. Be2 Ne7 11. O-O O-O 12. b4 Bxd4 13. cxd4 Nc6 14.
a3 Nxd4 15. Nc3 Nxe2+ 16. Nxe2 Bb5 17. Kh1 Qc7 18. f4 Qc4 19. Re1 f6 20. Nd4
Rae8 21. Rc1 Qd3 22. Qxd3 Bxd3 23. Re3 Be4 24. Rec3 fxe5 25. fxe5 Rf2 26. Rg1
Rd2 27. Nf3 Rd3 28. Rxd3 Bxd3 29. Nd4 Bf5 30. h3 Kf7 31. Rf1 Kg6 32. Kg1 h5 33.
h4 Bg4 34. g3 Rc8 35. Nb5 Be2 36. Nxa7 Ra8 37. Re1 Bc4 38. Nb5 Bxb5 39. Ra1 Ba4
40. Kf2 Rf8+ 41. Ke3 Rf5 0-1
|Jan-16-07|| ||Tabanus: <blueguitar322> The c4 French maybe? Not totally sound, but most French players hate it. 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.e5 Nd7 5.c4 or 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.c4. Even 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c4 is playable. After 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c5 I don't know, I never play 3...c5|
|Mar-13-07|| ||drukenknight: Good Queen/Bad Queen. From now on I will post a diagram of the key moment in the game so you can cut to the chase. The Good Queen works hard, cleaning up the center, banging rooks in the corner while the Bad Queen rests and does nothing. Personally I like Bad ones but that's a different matter. Look at the board after whites 17th move: |
1. e4 e6
2. Nf3 Nf6
3. Nc3 c5
4. e5 Nd5
5. Bc4 Ne7
6. d4 cxd4
7. Qxd4 Nbc6
8. Qd1 Qc7
9. Bf4 Ng6
10. Bg3 Bb4
11. O-O h5
12. Nh4 Na5
13. Bb3 Nxb3
14. axb3 Bc5 (probably not necessary as Nxg6 should be prevented) 15. Qe2 b6
16. Nxg6 fxg6
Position after white's 17th; Black to play and drive white crazy.
click for larger view
|Mar-30-07|| ||ganstaman: I was watching a video lesson on the Reti Gambit (videochess.net, in the Opening Corner section), which is 1. e4 e6 2. b3 d5 3. Bb2. He mentions that after 3...dxe4 4. Nc6, 4...f5 is too weakening, offering the line 5. d3 exd3 6. Bxd3, etc.|
But what about 5...e3? As in, 1. e4 e6 2. b3 d5 3. Bb2 dxe4 4. Nc6 f5 5. d3 e3 6. fxe3 Bd6 (making Qh4+ more of a threat) 7. Nf3 Nf6 with black getting in ...e5 if possible (maybe need ...Nc6 in support) followed by ...Be6.
So black doesn't keep the extra pawn, but he doesn't appear to be really behind in development either. Black trades a d-pawn for white's f-pawn, but white weakened his dark squares on the queenside (and may, temporarily at least, cede occupation of the center).
I may never face this line, but just in case I don't want to fall into a lost position too early.
|Apr-05-07|| ||Eyal: <ganstaman: But what about 5...e3? As in, 1. e4 e6 2. b3 d5 3. Bb2 dxe4 4. Nc6 f5 5. d3 e3 6. fxe3 Bd6 (making Qh4+ more of a threat) 7. Nf3 Nf6 with black getting in ...e5 if possible (maybe need ...Nc6 in support) followed by ...Be6.> Yeah, 5...e3 certainly makes sense here - though after 6.fxe3 Black should probably play 6...Nf6, since 6...Bd6 allows White to weaken Black's position and develop the queen with a tempo (preparing for 0-0-0) by 7.Qh5+ g6 8.Qh3.|
|Apr-06-07|| ||ganstaman: <Eyal> Thanks. It's always good to see someone telling me I'm not crazy.|
I looked up the position after 4...f5 in another database, and it seems that 5. f3 is the popular move. I think 5...e3 is still a good response, leaving white with an ugly pawn on f3. The only problem is that white has so much more development as he's actually moved 2 pieces already and black's moved none. Hmmm, maybe 5. f3 is actually a lot stronger.
|Apr-06-07|| ||realbrob: <blueguitar> I also suggest the Exchange French 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.exd5 exd5 4.c4, then you'll probably get an isolated pawn but also a very uncomfortable situation for many French players. It was also in an interesting game by Josh Waitzkin in the Chessmaster 10 database. Ok, maybe it's not a top-level source, but it was interesting nevertheless.|
|Apr-06-07|| ||Eyal: <ganstaman: I looked up the position after 4...f5 in another database, and it seems that 5. f3 is the popular move. I think 5...e3 is still a good response> I don't think so, because in this case, the opened d-file
might cause Black some serious problems - because he's so underdeveloped, as you pointed out yourself. For example, after 6.dxe3 Nf6? 7.Qxd8+ Kxd8 8.0-0-0+ Black is already in some trouble; and 6...Qxd1+ 7.Rxd1 doesn't look so pleasant for him either (especially since he's not even a pawn up anymore). After 5.f3, it seems to me more logical for Black to start developing some pieces, with 5...Bd6 (now!) or Nf6.|
|May-02-07|| ||Colock: The French Defense is by far my favourite opening. This is the strangest game I got from the opening. I played Black.|
1. e4 e6
2. c4 Nc6
3. d3 Bb4+
4. Bd2 Bxd2+
5. Nxd2 Nf6
6. Ngf3 O-O
7. Be2 d6
8. O-O e5
9. Nh4 Nxe4
22.Rg2 Kf7 0-1
I not sure if we can officialy classify the game as a French Defense.
|May-17-07|| ||ongyj: <drukenknight> Care to fill up the rest? I mean I actually feel that White's winning. Poor me in tactics. And also, again, very out of the book opening play, like all your other games^O^|
|Jul-17-07|| ||GotGoose: Hi, does anyone have an analysis/recommendation of the continuation for:|
1. e4 e6
I usually play 2... d5, but the Opening Explorer says 2... c5. Which one is better?
|Jul-17-07|| ||Morphystyle: Gotgoose - I believe 2...d5 is better because it forces white to make a choice earlier, whether to exchange or push. But most of the time they transpose into each other. If white pushes the e-pawn, after d5 and c5 play Nc6, Nge7, h5, Nf5, Qb6 and white already has difficulties.|
|Jul-17-07|| ||Morphystyle: If white exchanges, playing c5 is not the best option|
|Jul-17-07|| ||GotGoose: Thanks for the response :)
What is recommended after the exchange? (3. exd5 dxd5)
|Jul-17-07|| ||Timeline: 1. e4 e6 2. f4 c5 is a Sicilian. However, it can transpose into the French by playing d5 later. If you want to French Defense, why commit c5 early and show your hand. If you wish to play Sicilian positions; however, c5 is fine for black as well.|
|Jul-17-07|| ||Timeline: After 1.e4 e6 2.f4 d5:
3.d3? is bad in view of 3...dxe4 4.dxe4 Qxd1+ and the queen is traded off and white now lost the option of castle.
3.exd5?! exd5 isn't much better because of open e file and weakened kingside. f4 is often played for kingside attack; however, this is only effective when center is locked up and black cannot get sufficient counterplay. In this case, black can just strike back at the center. Usually, white has to play d4 later when his dark squaed bishop is bad.
3...c5 transposes into the Closed Sicilian (inferior, but playable for white)
3...Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.d4 transposes into the Steinitz variation of the French. When white has a reasonable attacking position.
3...dxe4 4. Nxe4 is a good variation for black where the position looks like Rubinstein French, but white's pawn is misplaced on f4 rather than d4.
3.e5 c5 looks like the only challenging white continuation. When 4.Bb5+ Bd7, trading black's bad bishop for white's good one is not the answer. As well as 4.b4 (wing gambit that looks dubious). 4.Nf3 Nc6 when white has a lot of continuation to choose from looks like the way to go.
|Jul-19-07|| ||Morphystyle: Timeline - I totally agree. If white plays 3 e5 c5, then black can use the piece placement I listed above and get a great game. I don't play the french, but arrive from 1.e4 c5 2.nc3 e6 3.f5 d5. This way white has a harder time reinforcing his center with c3. My king usually stays in the center and occasionally 0-0-0. Once black plays h5 and knight to f5 his game is easy.|
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