page 1 of 38; games 1-25 of 948  Game   Result Moves Year Event/Locale Opening 1. D Ponziani vs NN 1-0 10 1769 Modena C24 Bishop's Opening 2. Smith vs Philidor 0-1 33 1790 London, England C24 Bishop's Opening 3. McDonnell vs La Bourdonnais 1-0 48 1834 London C24 Bishop's Opening 4. P Bilguer vs Angerstein 0-1 19 1835 corr C24 Bishop's Opening 5. Von Der Lasa vs A Von Der Goltz 0-1 43 1837 Berlin m6 C24 Bishop's Opening 6. P Bilguer vs Von Der Lasa 0-1 26 1838 Berlin C24 Bishop's Opening 7. Cochrane vs Staunton 1-0 30 1842 London m2 C24 Bishop's Opening 8. Cochrane vs Staunton   0-1 35 1842 London m2 C24 Bishop's Opening 9. Cochrane vs Staunton 0-1 16 1842 London m2 C24 Bishop's Opening 10. Cochrane vs Staunton 1-0 49 1842 London m2 C24 Bishop's Opening 11. Cochrane vs Staunton 0-1 24 1842 London m2 C24 Bishop's Opening 12. Staunton vs Saint Amant ½-½ 89 1843 Staunton-Saint Amant C24 Bishop's Opening 13. Kornik vs Sroda 1-0 48 1843 Unknown C24 Bishop's Opening 14. Stralsund vs Greifswald   0-1 51 1844 City corr C24 Bishop's Opening 15. Marseille vs Algiers   1-0 36 1846 City Match C24 Bishop's Opening 16. E Lowe vs H Kennedy 0-1 35 1849 London m ;HCL 34 C24 Bishop's Opening 17. A Ehrmann vs Anderssen 0-1 35 1851 Club Tourney C24 Bishop's Opening 18. Shumov vs D Urusov   0-1 48 1853 St Petersburg m C24 Bishop's Opening 19. Anderssen vs Eichborn 0-1 42 1853 Casual C24 Bishop's Opening 20. Cochrane vs Mohishunder 0-1 47 1854 Calcutta C24 Bishop's Opening 21. Cochrane vs Mohishunder   1-0 51 1855 Calcutta C24 Bishop's Opening 22. Somacarana vs Cochrane 1-0 22 1855 Calcutta C24 Bishop's Opening 23. Wiegelmann vs B Wolff 0-1 49 1856 Berlin ch C24 Bishop's Opening 24. Wiegelmann vs Mayet   1-0 45 1856 Berlin ch C24 Bishop's Opening 25. Somacarana vs Cochrane   0-1 36 1856 Calcutta C24 Bishop's Opening  page 1 of 38; games 1-25 of 948    REFINE SEARCH:   White wins (1-0) | Black wins (0-1) | Draws (1/2-1/2)

< Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 1 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing> Mar-25-04    PaulKeres: What should White do next? Any opinions welcome Mar-25-04    actual: White can play 3.d3 4.Nf3 and if black doesn't play c6 and d5 then white plays c3 with the intention of playing d4 later. Mar-25-04    Helloween: 3.Nf3 is an inferior line of the Petrov, therefore 3.d3 probably the soundest move, leading to quiet, Giuocco Piano-like positions. 3.d4 has also been tried quite a bit, and is White's riskiest attempt; 3...exd4 4.Nf3(certainly not 4.e5? d5! and Black is definitely better)4...Bc5 5.0-0 d6 6.c3 dxc3 7.Nxc3 0-0 and Black is slightly better. Mar-25-04    actual: <3.d3 probably the soundest move, leading to quiet, Giuocco Piano-like positions.> I think that they are more like ruy lopez positions unless white is content to stay in the pianissimo line. Mar-25-04    Helloween: I disagree. You are probably referring to the closed Ruy Lopez, right? The positions are not that similar to a closed Spanish game, however, they often transpose directly into the Italian. Mar-25-04    actual: S Beshukov vs L Elamri, 2004 in this game the position after 10. d4 resembles a closed spanish. Mar-25-04    ruylopez900: I don't think that they would really transpose into the Guioco Piano because of attacks on pawns, and weird replies. They might transpose into the Guioco Pianissimo with all four Knights out though. 1.e4 e5 2.c4 f6 3.d3 c5 4.f3 c6 5.0-0 0-0 6.c3 d6 But I'm not sure that's all sound. Jul-31-05    BaranDuin: I don't think 3. d4 is sound at all I recently played in a local tournament against a 2093-rated opponent (I only have 1586). He played 3. d4 and I simply grabbed the pawn and nearly won the game! (Lost because of time trouble.) Jul-31-05    SneechLatke: I rather like the straightforward 3.c3, provoking black to play 3...xe4 and enter the relm of complications known as the Frankenstein-Dracula. (after 4. h5 d6 5. b3 etc.) <BaranDuin> I quite agree. 3.d4 looks like a premature attempt at seizing the initiative, which should be rebuffed with accurate play. Jul-31-05    WMD: Of course 3.d4 is sound. A trap which Black often falls for in blitz play is 3...Nxe4?! 4.dxe5 Nxf2? (4...Bc5? 5.Qd5) 5.Qf3. Jul-31-05    SneechLatke: <WMD> however, if Black plays the natural 3...ed4, (and if 4. e5 Qe7) he should be at least equal, no? Jul-31-05    SneechLatke: On second thought, I see your point <WMD>. 3...ed4 4. e5 Qe7 5. Qe2 could be dangerous for black, but what about 3...ed4 4. e5 d5!?, where black should have a fine position, something like an improved (for Black) form of the Max-Lange Attack. Jul-31-05    WMD: Of course, but can you demonstrate an advantage for White after 3.d4 in mainline Sicilians? Jul-31-05    SneechLatke: <Of course, but can you demonstrate an advantage for White after 3.d4 in mainline Sicilians?> What is this supposed to mean? I'm not saying my analysis is fool-proof or set in stone, and bishop's opening is a long way from the Open Sicilian. Jul-31-05    WMD: I switched over to playing the Bishop's Opening shortly before Tim Harding came out with his review of the opening in general, and the Urusov Gambit in particular: http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibit... http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibit... http://www.chesscafe.com/text/kibit... I'm the first to admit it doesn't give White much if Black knows the score, but it's become like a family pet which I haven't the heart to put down. Jul-31-05    WMD: <What is this supposed to mean?> Is the soundness of the Urusov Gambit and Open Sicilian to be judged on the basis of 3.d4? Jul-31-05    SneechLatke: <WMD> Sorry, if my meaning was unclear: I was only analyzing the Urusov Gambit in particualar, starting with 1.e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. d4. I make no claims to the soundness of the Open Sicilian or any other line involving 3.d4. Jul-31-05    ughaibu: 3.d4 is a reversed elephant, surely as worth a go as anything. Jul-31-05    WMD: There's some excellent analysis of the gambit at: http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~goeller... Jul-31-05    Koster: Anything to avoid the Petroff I guess. Jul-31-05    ughaibu: 1.d4 is an easy way to avoid the Petroff. Aug-01-05    mack: Surely not playing chess in the first place is the easiest way to avoid the Petroff? What does everyone think of 3.Qe2? That can cause all sorts of long thinks from black. Aug-01-05    SEMENELIN: what can you say about qf3 thats more counteractive :) nyahahahehahah Aug-08-05    SneechLatke: <mack> I had a game at the MN open a few years back which started with 1.e4 e5 2.c4 f6 3.e2 where I played 3...c5, which ECO14 evaluates as =. I don't see what's so great about this move either, since white doesn't really challenge black at all. Mar-01-06    LluviaSean: So much for the "Knights Before Bishops" rule... < Earlier Kibitzing  · PAGE 1 OF 2 ·  Later Kibitzing>

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