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| Apr-07-08 | | mron: <tpstar> Thanks mate. I've recently been studying the Latvian intensively and my mentioning of 6.Be2 is from http://www.chessville.com/instructi... which only mentions 7...hg6. As a modest club player 4.Nc4 probably would appear fairly often and is a sound alternative. I believe however that 4.Qh5 is the only move to put serious pressure on Black's position. I'm glad you mentioned 6.Kd1 because after seeing all of the featured games on this database a line frequently talked about goes 6...Nf6 7.Qh3/Qh4 hg6 8.Qh8 and after 8...Ng4, Black appears to have tremendous compensation for the exchange. There may well be a way out for White but I can't see anything. What do you think? P.S. I recently found out my line 6.Be2 7...Rg8 is brushed aside by 8.Nc3! Qe6 9.Nb5 Bd6 10.Nh4 f4 11.Nf5. Fancy a draw?! :) |
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| Jul-04-08 | | Latviandevil: Philosophical thoughts on gambits (in our case, Latvian Gambit)
1st. PART
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In essence, the “philosophical” question about gambits – in our case, the Latvian and PCG of previous answers- , is what makes a gambit playable ?, and the ways for the answer are various. Firstly, we should to think about our own personal style ( of play and personality ). If I prefer open, tactical positions with attack and counter-attack I will build a repertoire based in positions of those characteristics ( Pelikan, Dragon, Open Spanish, Spanish Jaenish, King’s Indian, Latvian g., Grunfeld ). Second, the surprisevely value. A gambit is easily brought about, full of pitfalls for the opponent. Your opponent, in all probability, is playing something he has never studied and has no hope of understanding as well as I myself do. It matters little whether there is a path to an objective advantage for him so long as that path is well hidden among a plethora of plausible alternatives. I have experimented a great surprising, a psychological impact, a bewildering for all and even the “relatively” best prepared opponents when I moved 2..f5!?. It is not enough to make “fairly natural moves”, they need to be the right natural ones !! I am 2070 ELO FIDE player and usually I play tournaments where my opponents have 2000-2300 Itn. Elo. Anybody can to think that if I defend the Latvian is because I am low rated player, but paradoxically I represent the 90% of these players in the World (!), and thus I don’t see why we can not play the gambit ( also Evans, Albin, sidelines of Two Knights, etc. ) if “ theoretically” speaking it is not refuted in OTB. It is very reasonable that in the “peaceful” of our own home, with the helping of the engines we can study or even “refute” a chess variation ..of any line of play of chess ...but I can confirm that with the board in front of your eyes, in a REAL OTB game, matters are very different .... My opponents, on average, play far worse than Fritz, Hiarcs or Shredder !?. I am not averse to play a move ( or an opening ) that I know can be refuted if I think my opponent would only be likely to find the refutation if he has the “engine” in his mind, which is impossible indeed. I note if I myself or any of the readers of this forum has had recourse to computer assistance to come up with the gambit, and if the moves or “refutations” are so natural, why we use computers at all ?. If they ( or I ) aren’t, then what does that say about one’s practical chances with the LG at levels far below the 2300 plane on which we play ?. I will assume ( only ) that above 2300 FIDE Latvian is a bit unsound ( but only, against well-prepared players, and also they would win with us another opening ... ), but below of this, I don’t see any problem on playing it ( remember, we are 90% of the players of the World ). ( TO BE CONTINUE )
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| Jul-04-08 | | Latviandevil: .........
Last words about: I’ve won several times in official OTB games opponents close 2200-2250 FIDE ELO with the gambit, and generally I’ve seen he doesn’t know even the Main Lines far from 9-10 moves, or worse the “spirit” of the middle game positions, so I must to assume the “shock” value !. Apart from this, paradoxically 2..f5 only represents 25% of the whole of my official games, so I usually play often 2..Nc6, and also the Sicilian, so the “problem” is not the LG, the problem is opposed !!, any players know a correct way against the LG ! ( in CC the question is quite different indeed ). When you select an opening, you are not selecting the position that arises at move 20 after best play by both sides. You are selecting the whole opening with all of its traps and twists, its side lines and main lines, and so you are an authentic specialist on LG ( for instance ), and your opponent don’t .... for a player who has a high tolerance for risk it does not constitute a conclusive argument against playing such gambit Is funny, but Emil Diemer once wrote: “In order to win, one must sometimes have the courage to play badly.”. At present LG is being needed of some new improvements ( see ALL the serie of my past answers ), but I don’t believe is already dead, maybe many people don’t know some of the best specialists, ( Budovskis, Strautins, Krantz, Rosenstielke, Oren, Zemitis, etc. ) are finding new ideas and improvements. Silman’s theorethical article is truly hard ( even I've have collaborated discrediting Black http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_o... ) , but many of us will continue with our private analysis encouraging Blacks play !?. The same to Philidor Countergambit 3..f5 ( played by NM James West, Kosten and Mestel ) or Rousseau gambit 2..Nc6 and 3..f5. I suggest any person with interest to know updates of LG visit www.gambitchess.com and the series of LG World Tournaments ( and many theory or games ). Alejandro Melchor, Barcelona, Spain
amelchor@eresmas.net
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| Jul-08-08 | | myschkin: Grazias <Alejandro Melchor>! Interesting thoughts on gambits in general.
<I will assume ( only ) that above 2300 FIDE Latvian is a bit unsound ( but only, against well-prepared players, and also they would win with us another opening ... ), but below of this, I don’t see any problem on playing it ( remember, we are 90% of the players of the World ).> |
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| Nov-01-08 | | Silverstrike: I recently picked up a £1 pamphlet on the Latvian and it has some interesting ideas, eg. 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Bc4 b5 . It doesn't present anything convincing in response to 3.d4 though, can anyone suggest something against that move? |
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| Dec-21-08 | | Alphastar: No. just no |
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| Dec-21-08 | | WhiteRook48: I thought King's Knight Opening was 1. Nf3 |
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Jan-24-09
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Feb-05-09
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<Brazilian Defense
<1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Qe7>>>:
http://www.chessgames.com/perl/ches... |
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Jun-29-09
 | | whiteshark: <Opening of the Day <Latvian Gambit <1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 f5>>> Opening Explorer |
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Aug-15-09
 | | whiteshark: There are 5 ECO main groups and 100 subdivisions for each. So one might expect a <C40> only every 500 days. Certainly not! <Brazilian> feelings return after only 191 days. |
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| Mar-14-10 | | drukenknight: It's not a latvian but I dont know where else to put the mad qf6 attack; I see this quite regularly on the internet: 1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Qf6
3. d4 exd4
4. e5 Qe7
5. Bf4 c5
6. Nbd2 (this is a planned pattern I am going in)
.... f6
7. Bc4 (crap pc recommends Bb5)
7...Nc6 (...fxe5 maybe =)
8. O-O g5
9. exf6 Qxf6
10. Re1+ Nge7
11. Bxg5
after 11 Bxg5 can our mad friend survive this?
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| Apr-05-10 | | FiveofSwords: drunkenknight, i dont really understand this 3. d4 in your line It seems to simply help black. I would think its much more natual to play 3.Nc3 to attmept to exploit the odd position of the queen. |
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| Apr-07-10 | | drukenknight: 5swords: it basically gambits a pawn in order to generate an attack. The combination of an attack (on blacks K) as well as chasing the black Q creates very tricky positions. I dont see anything wrong with gambiting a pawn out of a perfectly symmetrical/balanced position, so we dont have that exactly but it's only move 3 so how bad can it be? |
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| Dec-31-10 | | Penguincw: This position can lead to many different openings. Nc6 is the best and most popular choice. Nf6 is the Petroff or Russian Game. d5 is the Elephant Gambit. d6 is the Philidor Defense. f5 is the Latvian Gambit. f6 is the worst response and it is called the Damaino Defense. That's just to name some.  click for larger view |
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| Mar-09-11 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day:
Brazilian Opening
1.e4 e5 2. f3 e7 |
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| Mar-22-11 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day:
Damaino Defense
1.e4 e5 2. f3 f6
Advice for white : Sac a knight on e5.
Advice for black : Don't play this opening. |
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| Apr-28-11 | | squaresquat: Islam is to God what Steinitz was to chess
One articulates a clear way to chess victory; the other a clear way to be with God. |
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| Sep-19-11 | | Robert Hill: My game at a Corr. Site: I am 1300 on this site and beat a 1550 rated player. But I have been getting some lessons from a 2450 rated player. 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f5 3.Nxe5 fxe4?(Qf6) 4.Qh5+ Ke7 5.Nc3 g6 6.Nxg6+ Ke6 7.Qe5+ Kf7 8.Nxh8# |
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| Jan-20-12 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Elephant Gambit
1.e4 e5 2. f3 d5
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| Feb-09-12 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Latvian Gambit
1.e4 e5 2. f3 f5
 click for larger viewMikhail Tal and Alexey Shirov probably played this opening a lot. |
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| Mar-26-12 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Brazilian Defense
1.e4 e5 2. f3 e7
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| Apr-09-12 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Damiano Defence
1.e4 e5 2. f3 f6
 click for larger viewWorst response, and that's why it's not popular, any more. |
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| Jul-27-12 | | e4 resigns: horrid blunder by black on move 1:
1.e4 e5??
(an improvement is c5) |
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| Sep-01-12 | | the eel: I gave up the Latvian Gambit 10 years ago after finding no good answer to 3 Nxe5. Recently I have been experimenting on-line with 3-- Nf6 with good results ( one defeat in 10). Black gets a lasting initative,for a pawn sac, in most games.I am considering using the line OTB. I am comfortable with all other Latvian variations and particularly like the lines after 3 Bc4.Does anyone know of a refutation of 3-- Nf6? |
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