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Giuoco Piano (C50)
1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bc4 Bc5

Number of games in database: 3729
Years covered: 1620 to 2014
Overall record:
   White wins 36.7%
   Black wins 34.5%
   Draws 28.8%

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PRACTITIONERS
With the White Pieces With the Black Pieces
Bonnerjee Mohishunder  60 games
James Mason  33 games
Mikhail Chigorin  23 games
John Cochrane  62 games
Varlam Vepkhvishvili  42 games
Emanuel Lasker  20 games
NOTABLE GAMES [what is this?]
White Wins Black Wins
Capablanca vs NN, 1918
J Mason vs Winawer, 1882
Loyd vs S Rosenthal, 1867
NN vs Blackburne, 1880
Dubois vs Steinitz, 1862
Nimzowitsch vs Capablanca, 1913
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 page 1 of 150; games 1-25 of 3,729  PGN Download
Game  ResultMoves Year Event/LocaleOpening
1. NN vs Greco 0-113 1620 Miscellaneous GameC50 Giuoco Piano
2. NN vs Greco 0-114 1620 Miscellaneous GameC50 Giuoco Piano
3. NN vs Greco 0-115 1620 Miscellaneous GameC50 Giuoco Piano
4. NN vs Stamma 0-113 1737 CompositionC50 Giuoco Piano
5. NN vs Stamma 0-117 1737 CompositionC50 Giuoco Piano
6. NN vs Stamma 0-117 1737 CompositionC50 Giuoco Piano
7. NN vs Stamma 0-114 1737 CompositionC50 Giuoco Piano
8. NN vs Stamma 0-117 1737 CompositionC50 Giuoco Piano
9. NN vs Stamma 0-117 1737 CompositionC50 Giuoco Piano
10. C Lolli vs D Ercole Del Rio 0-119 1755 ModenaC50 Giuoco Piano
11. H H Boncourt vs Saint Amant 0-139 1837 ParisC50 Giuoco Piano
12. W Lewis vs NN 1-019 1840 LondonC50 Giuoco Piano
13. Daniels vs G Walker 1-012 1841 LondonC50 Giuoco Piano
14. Hanstein vs Von Der Lasa 0-126 1841 BerlinC50 Giuoco Piano
15. Cochrane vs Staunton 0-157 1841 London m1C50 Giuoco Piano
16. Saint Amant vs J Schulten 1-030 1842 ParisC50 Giuoco Piano
17. Staunton vs Cochrane ½-½52 1842 London m2C50 Giuoco Piano
18. G Walker vs Saint Amant  0-141 1842 Great BritainC50 Giuoco Piano
19. Paris vs Budapest 0-139 1843 UnknownC50 Giuoco Piano
20. Saint Amant vs G Perigal  1-047 1843 Great BritainC50 Giuoco Piano
21. M General vs Dubois 0-128 1844 Rome ITAC50 Giuoco Piano
22. C Stanley vs E Rousseau 1-049 1845 New Orleans m ;HCL 34C50 Giuoco Piano
23. C Stanley vs E Rousseau 1-036 1845 New Orleans m ;HCL 34C50 Giuoco Piano
24. C Stanley vs E Rousseau 1-047 1845 New Orleans m ;HCL 34C50 Giuoco Piano
25. C Stanley vs E Rousseau 1-045 1845 New Orleans m ;HCL 34C50 Giuoco Piano
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Jul-02-08  ravel5184: Does anybody like 3 ... g6? There does not appear to be a page around here but I am currently playing it as Black in correspondence against User: ahmadov on my forum (aka The House of Chess).

The game continued: 4. O-O Bg7 5. c3 Nf6 6. Re1 O-O 7. d4 d6 8. Bg5 Bg4.

Aug-15-08
Premium Chessgames Member
  whiteshark: <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nd4?!> Blackburne Shilling Gambit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackb...

Opening Explorer No game from Blackburne in this database.

Jan-15-09  patzer of patzers: Why is Tal vs Filip, 1963 listed as a Giuoco Piano? ...Bc5 (or, in this case, ...Bxc5) isn't played until move 31!
Jan-15-09
Premium Chessgames Member
  refutor: <patzer of patzers> techincally, the code C50 is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 other, so stuff like 3. ...Be7, 3. ...d6, 3. ...Nd4 etc. falls under this
Jan-16-09  patzer of patzers: <refutor> Ah. Thanks for the explanation. I'd neglected to think about the other kibitzes here (not the first time) and didn't even look at the picture at the top.
Feb-20-09  FiveofSwords: I really dont understand how you guys find it difficult to initiate complications in this line. I manage to do it quite easily. Theres a lot of stuff that has been analyzed already, which is extremely sharp, and plenty of room for new ideas in many of them. <Guiarados: I always play Giuoco Piano.But it isn't easy to play.If black defends properly, the match is equal.Example: 1.e4-e5 2.Nf3-Nc6 3.Bc4-Bc5 4.c3-Nf6 5.d4-exd4 6.cxd4-Bb4+7.Bd2-Bxd2 8.Nxd2-d5 9.exd5-Nxd5 10.O-O - O-O 11.Ne5-Nxd4 12.Nb3-Nxb3 13.Bxd5-Qf6 14.Bxf7 Rxf7 15.Qxb3-Qxe5 16.Rfe1-Be6 17.Rxe5-Bxb3 18.axb3-Rd7 19.g3-a6 20.Rc1-Rad8> 4. c3 is not forces. 5. d4 is not forced. 6 cd is not forced (consider 6 0-0 or 6 e5. both are interesting) 7 Bd2 is not forced (check out 7 Nc3...even check out 7. kf1) 8 Nbxd2 and 9 ed both are not really forced, but its true that other moves dont seem very logical. FYI i think 7..Nxe4 is a slightly better , more forcing route to an equal game than 7...bxd2+. 10 0-0 is not only not forced, i think it is quite a bit inferior to 10. Qb3. 11 Ne5 and 12 Nb3 both make no sense to me. you have so many other options that seem much more logical. for example, why dont you complete your development? The remaining moves seriously leave me with the impression that you are actually actively seeking a draw with white by forcing exchanges when you have nothing at all in the endgame.
Feb-20-09  FiveofSwords: <ravel5184> The line you speak of is actually considered part of vienna theory. look at the vienna and see if you can find it.
Feb-20-09  chessman95: I don't play this opening very often, because it seems to be too classical. The old theory of attacking the "weak" f7 pawn never actually does anything, and usually the opening results in slow manuvering, which gets boring fast. When I get board of the Ruy Lopez, I sometimes play this looking for the Evans Gambit, which is my favorite alternative. It's the one line in the Italian Game that I don't fall asleep playing.
Feb-21-09  FiveofSwords: <chessman> thats bizzare, i think the opposite really.. the ruy is slow manouvering and the italian game can be fairly sharp...although it is my least favorite of the open games. Much prefer the 2 knights or scotch or vienna. Anyway none of these games are just about attacking f7, theres a lot of stuff going on.
Feb-21-09  chessman95: <FiveofSwords> I see your point, but that's not really what I meant. When I said that the Italian Game is slow manouvering, I meant that in a Giuoco Pianissimo line all that happens is simple development and a few trades, while in the Ruy there is a lot of strategy and tactics to be aware of, and play is not just straight out development but attack and defense of the key e5 pawn.
Feb-22-09  FiveofSwords: <bxg7> I really appreciate your being interesting enough to try new ideas in such an old opening. Not enough people do that. Theres really a lot more going on in openings than the cliche plans people are used to, and trying playable sidelines liek this can, at the very least, help you to understand those under-the-surface possiiblities which can lead to better play even in the mainlines. I kinda wish you explained mroe that your general idea with Qc2 is. I guess i can see some possible tactics agains thte hanging bishop on c5 if black opens the c file, and maybe getting a rook quickly to the d file rather than the e file could open some interesting possibilities. Also ive learned theres a lot of tricks you can do from a position similar to this from the black side of the queen's gambit accepted, the queen c2, bishop c4 and Nf3 structure can do some suprising tactics out of nowhere against the kingside. But i wonder if you had other ideas, or if it was just another move to defend the e pawn.
Feb-23-09  FiveofSwords: <chessman95> I agree with you there about the giuco pianissimo. Thats quite a dull opening. Fortunately it seems that its only played by pretty weak players so you outplay them anyway.
Feb-23-09  MaxxLange: Well, the Pianissimo can be used as an attempt to slowly reach Ruy-like positions, and some strong players do use it. It's certainly not the most ambitious opening...

What enrages me is people playing d3 against the Two Knights.

Mar-03-09  chessman95: <MaxxLange> Why does d3 in the Two Knights enrage you? It seems like the most logical move: it defends the attacked e4 pawn and does not block in the light-squared bishop which is already developed.
Mar-06-09  FiveofSwords: well I disagree by a long shot. d3 there is just not a logical move. Its illogical to give your opponent no problems at all because its pretty unlikely that normal people are going to make mistakes when there is no pressure on their position.
Mar-06-09  MaxxLange: <chessman95> White avoids all the juicy positions after 4 d4 or 4 Ng5, depriving me of fun.
Mar-06-09  chessman95: <MaxxLange> I see. I would prefer those lines as well! Although I don't play d3, I can see why it would be a boring line.

And <FiveofSwords>, the point of playing openings that put pressure on the position is not get them to make mistakes. There's no point in playing a sharp line at all if you're just relying on your opponent to make a blunder, which they usually won't.

Apr-05-10  FiveofSwords: well I think chess is all about making the other guy make a mistake. If there are no mistakes its just a draw. You cannot have an advantage in any position if you preculde the possibility of mistakes.
Jun-11-10
Premium Chessgames Member
  tpstar: <whiteshark> Thanks for the Wikipedia link about the Blackburne Shilling Gambit. Very helpful. =)

<Shadout Mapes> I liked your link too. =)

C50 covers quite a rich terrain.

Mar-11-11  Penguincw: Opening of the Day :
Giuoco Pianissimo
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.d3
Mar-16-11  Penguincw: Opening of the Day:
Blackburne Gambit
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nd4

Looks like a dangerous opening to me.

Jun-06-11
Premium Chessgames Member
  GrahamClayton: Here is an interesting move for Black in the Giuoco Piano: 6...h5?!:

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.0-0 Nf6 5.d3 d6 6.h3 h5 7.Bg5 Bg4 8.Nc3 Nd4 9.hxg4 Nxf3+ 10.Qxf3 hxg4 11.Qg3 Qd7 12.Bxf6 gxf6 13.Nd5 Rh6 14.c3 0-0-0 15.Rfd1 c6 16.Ne3 Bxe3 17.Qxe3 Rdh8 18.Kf1 f5 19.exf5 d5 20.Bb3 Qxf5 21.Qg3 e4 22.d4 e3 23.Ke2 exf2 24.Rf1 Re8+ 25.Kd2 Rf6 26.Bc2 Qg5+ 27.Kd1 Re3 28.Qh2 Rfe6 0-1

Apr-03-12  Penguincw: Opening of the Day

Blackburne Gambit
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nd4


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This opening sure is dangerous. If 5.Nxe5 Qg5 6.Nxf7 Qxg2 and it looks bad for white.


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However, not taking the pawn, instead taking the knight, and following the top variation, it comes down to this.

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Oct-16-13  Kikoman: <Opening of the Day>

Giuoco Pianissimo
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. d3


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Oct-22-13  Kikoman: <Opening of the Day>

Blackburne Gambit
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nd4


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