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| Mar-21-08 | | 17.Bxg7: This is an attempt to test the relatively new move 5.Qc2 in the Giuoco Piano (at least in cg there are not games featuring that move). I played in several blitz games at home and in FICS as well, and I found several promising positions; of course, this doesn't change the drawish character of the opening, which requieres lots of patience from both players (unless you think in a quick opening trap, which is very unlikely in this opening), personally, I prefer this opening instead of the Ruy Lopez, because it allows more improvisation (less over-analyzed). The following game was played in FICS, black pieces were conducted by some old version of Crafty with only 16MB of RAM, called Chessrouter. I will show key positions; for sure it was an entertaining game. [Event "ICS Rated standard match"]
[Site "freechess.org"]
[Date "2008.03.21"]
[Black "ChessRouter"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "1200"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Bc5 4. c3 Nf6 5. Qc2N d6 6. b4 Bb6 7. O-O Bg4 8.Nh4 <This is one idea I had in mind by playing 5.Qc2> O-O 9. d3?!
<9.Nf5 or 9.h3 are the most natural moves here. This move represents an improvised pawn sacrifice after 9..Nxe4. Of course, 10.dxe4 Qxh4 can be played, but in that case, I considered the pawn sac was meaningless. So, I had in mind 10. Ng6 hxg6 11. dxe4, so the loss of a pawn could be compensated with a doubled pawn on black's kingside.> Nxe4 10. Ng6 
click for larger viewhxg6?! <Later on, in postmortem, I discovered that black could play the following line, that leads to a bigger -probably winning- advantage, but it is difficult for me to see it over the board 10.. Nxc3!! 11. Nxf8 Ne2+ 12. Kh1 Qh4!, so my plan of 9.d3 has a refutation.> 11. dxe4 Qf6 12. Be2 Qh4 13. Bxg4 Qxg4 14.Re1 g5 15. Nd2 a5 16. b5 Ne7 17. Nc4 <My idea by playing this move was to force a exchange of bishops, in order to avoid tactical complications with black pieces directed to white's kingside> Bc5 18. Be3 Bxe3 19. Nxe3 Qf4 20. Rad1
Rfd8
click for larger view21. Rd5!! <A positional sacrifice with lots of compensation; after 22. Nxd5 Qh4 23. Nxc7, white can protect the knight by playing 24. b6 and black rooks will be inactive for some time.> Nxd5 22. Nxd5 Qh4 23. Nxc7 Rac8 24. b6 g4 25. Qd3 a4 26. Qd5 Rb8 27. Rd1 Qh5 28. Rd3 Qh6 29. Re3 Qf6 30. c4 Qf4 |
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| Mar-22-08 | | 17.Bxg7: 31. Qd1 <This move required from me a lot of thought. Despite this, I considered it was easier to play white after the exchange sac and I just needed to be patient> Rdc8 32. Qxa4 Rd8 33. Qc2 Kh8 34. Rg3 Qg5 35. a4 Rbc8 36. h3 Qe7 37. Rxg4 Qd7? <more precise was 37. Qf6, white is better> 38. Qd2
click for larger view38..Rxc7 <The program didn't "understood" the concept of the previous exchange sac and wasn't able to generate counterplay. In practical play, a human would think in playing actively on the kingside to activate a rook or returning sooner the exchange sac, but when the program did that in move 38, it was already too late, I had a very confortable position> 39. bxc7 <It is funny I saw during the game that the rook sac 39.Rxg7 could force a draw by repetition, but of course, I felt ashamed to play that move with such an advantage> Rc8 40. c5 Rxc7 41. cxd6 Rc8 42. a5 Kg8 43. f4 <I liked that move, probably not the fastest way to win, but allowed me to simplify the position> exf4 44. e5 Rc5 45. Qd4 Rxa5 
click for larger view<A petite combination starting with 46.Rxg7! is the fastest way to win. I didn't see it during the game, but even with several slow moves from mine, the advantage was overwhelming and could be converted in a win. I must have missed an earlier forced mate, but I was sure I was going to win the game at that point.> 46. Qxf4 Ra1+ 47. Kh2 Kf8 48. Rh4 Kg8 49. Qe4 g6 50. Qc4 Rd1 51. Rd4 Rxd4 52. Qxd4 b5 53. Kg3 Qd8 54. Kf2 Qc8 55. Ke3 Qf5 56. g4 Qc8 57. d7 Qd8 58. Qd5 Qb6+ 59. Ke4 Qd8 60. e6 fxe6 61. Qxe6+ Kf8 62. h4 b4 63.g5 Qe7 64. Qxe7+ Kxe7 65. h5! <I liked it, I was sure I would win the pawn race. The ending is pretty.> b3 66. Kd3 gxh5 67. g6 b2 68. Kc2 Kxd7 69. g7 Ke6 70. g8=Q+ Kf5 71. Qd5+ and black resigned. I wonder how much theory there exists on 5.Qc2, but I think that move could be an alternative for people who play this opening (I don't think white is worse at that point); of course, following it with a good plan. After this recent success, I find entertaining to test this idea more times; of course, I don't know if a professional player would dare to do it (why not?)! |
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| Jul-02-08 | | ravel5184: Does anybody like 3 ... g6? There does not appear to be a page around here but I am currently playing it as Black in correspondence against User: ahmadov on my forum (aka The House of Chess). The game continued: 4. O-O Bg7 5. c3 Nf6 6. Re1 O-O 7. d4 d6 8. Bg5 Bg4. |
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Aug-15-08
 | | whiteshark: <1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nd4?!> Blackburne Shilling Gambit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackb... Opening Explorer
No game from Blackburne in this database.
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| Jan-15-09 | | patzer of patzers: Why is Tal vs Filip, 1963 listed as a Giuoco Piano? ...Bc5 (or, in this case, ...Bxc5) isn't played until move 31! |
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Jan-15-09
 | | refutor: <patzer of patzers> techincally, the code C50 is 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 other, so stuff like 3. ...Be7, 3. ...d6, 3. ...Nd4 etc. falls under this |
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| Jan-16-09 | | patzer of patzers: <refutor> Ah. Thanks for the explanation. I'd neglected to think about the other kibitzes here (not the first time) and didn't even look at the picture at the top. |
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| Feb-20-09 | | FiveofSwords: I really dont understand how you guys find it difficult to initiate complications in this line. I manage to do it quite easily. Theres a lot of stuff that has been analyzed already, which is extremely sharp, and plenty of room for new ideas in many of them.
<Guiarados: I always play Giuoco Piano.But it isn't easy to play.If black defends properly, the match is equal.Example: 1.e4-e5 2.Nf3-Nc6 3.Bc4-Bc5 4.c3-Nf6 5.d4-exd4 6.cxd4-Bb4+7.Bd2-Bxd2 8.Nxd2-d5 9.exd5-Nxd5 10.O-O - O-O 11.Ne5-Nxd4 12.Nb3-Nxb3 13.Bxd5-Qf6 14.Bxf7 Rxf7 15.Qxb3-Qxe5 16.Rfe1-Be6 17.Rxe5-Bxb3 18.axb3-Rd7 19.g3-a6 20.Rc1-Rad8>
4. c3 is not forces. 5. d4 is not forced. 6 cd is not forced (consider 6 0-0 or 6 e5. both are interesting) 7 Bd2 is not forced (check out 7 Nc3...even check out 7. kf1) 8 Nbxd2 and 9 ed both are not really forced, but its true that other moves dont seem very logical. FYI i think 7..Nxe4 is a slightly better , more forcing route to an equal game than 7...bxd2+. 10 0-0 is not only not forced, i think it is quite a bit inferior to 10. Qb3. 11 Ne5 and 12 Nb3 both make no sense to me. you have so many other options that seem much more logical. for example, why dont you complete your development? The remaining moves seriously leave me with the impression that you are actually actively seeking a draw with white by forcing exchanges when you have nothing at all in the endgame. |
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| Feb-20-09 | | FiveofSwords: <ravel5184> The line you speak of is actually considered part of vienna theory. look at the vienna and see if you can find it. |
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| Feb-20-09 | | chessman95: I don't play this opening very often, because it seems to be too classical. The old theory of attacking the "weak" f7 pawn never actually does anything, and usually the opening results in slow manuvering, which gets boring fast. When I get board of the Ruy Lopez, I sometimes play this looking for the Evans Gambit, which is my favorite alternative. It's the one line in the Italian Game that I don't fall asleep playing. |
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| Feb-21-09 | | FiveofSwords: <chessman> thats bizzare, i think the opposite really.. the ruy is slow manouvering and the italian game can be fairly sharp...although it is my least favorite of the open games. Much prefer the 2 knights or scotch or vienna. Anyway none of these games are just about attacking f7, theres a lot of stuff going on. |
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| Feb-21-09 | | chessman95: <FiveofSwords> I see your point, but that's not really what I meant. When I said that the Italian Game is slow manouvering, I meant that in a Giuoco Pianissimo line all that happens is simple development and a few trades, while in the Ruy there is a lot of strategy and tactics to be aware of, and play is not just straight out development but attack and defense of the key e5 pawn. |
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| Feb-22-09 | | FiveofSwords: <bxg7> I really appreciate your being interesting enough to try new ideas in such an old opening. Not enough people do that. Theres really a lot more going on in openings than the cliche plans people are used to, and trying playable sidelines liek this can, at the very least, help you to understand those under-the-surface possiiblities which can lead to better play even in the mainlines. I kinda wish you explained mroe that your general idea with Qc2 is. I guess i can see some possible tactics agains thte hanging bishop on c5 if black opens the c file, and maybe getting a rook quickly to the d file rather than the e file could open some interesting possibilities. Also ive learned theres a lot of tricks you can do from a position similar to this from the black side of the queen's gambit accepted, the queen c2, bishop c4 and Nf3 structure can do some suprising tactics out of nowhere against the kingside. But i wonder if you had other ideas, or if it was just another move to defend the e pawn. |
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| Feb-23-09 | | FiveofSwords: <chessman95> I agree with you there about the giuco pianissimo. Thats quite a dull opening. Fortunately it seems that its only played by pretty weak players so you outplay them anyway. |
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| Feb-23-09 | | MaxxLange: Well, the Pianissimo can be used as an attempt to slowly reach Ruy-like positions, and some strong players do use it. It's certainly not the most ambitious opening... What enrages me is people playing d3 against the Two Knights. |
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| Mar-03-09 | | chessman95: <MaxxLange> Why does d3 in the Two Knights enrage you? It seems like the most logical move: it defends the attacked e4 pawn and does not block in the light-squared bishop which is already developed. |
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| Mar-06-09 | | FiveofSwords: well I disagree by a long shot. d3 there is just not a logical move. Its illogical to give your opponent no problems at all because its pretty unlikely that normal people are going to make mistakes when there is no pressure on their position. |
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| Mar-06-09 | | MaxxLange: <chessman95> White avoids all the juicy positions after 4 d4 or 4 Ng5, depriving me of fun. |
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| Mar-06-09 | | chessman95: <MaxxLange> I see. I would prefer those lines as well! Although I don't play d3, I can see why it would be a boring line. And <FiveofSwords>, the point of playing openings that put pressure on the position is not get them to make mistakes. There's no point in playing a sharp line at all if you're just relying on your opponent to make a blunder, which they usually won't. |
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| Apr-05-10 | | FiveofSwords: well I think chess is all about making the other guy make a mistake. If there are no mistakes its just a draw. You cannot have an advantage in any position if you preculde the possibility of mistakes. |
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Jun-11-10
 | | tpstar: <whiteshark> Thanks for the Wikipedia link about the Blackburne Shilling Gambit. Very helpful. =) <Shadout Mapes> I liked your link too. =) C50 covers quite a rich terrain. |
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| Mar-11-11 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day :
Giuoco Pianissimo
1.e4 e5 2. f3 c6 3. c4 c5 4.d3 |
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| Mar-16-11 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day:
Blackburne Gambit
1.e4 e5 2.f3 c6 3.c4 d4
Looks like a dangerous opening to me. |
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Jun-06-11
 | | GrahamClayton: Here is an interesting move for Black in the Giuoco Piano: 6...h5?!: 1.e4 e5 2.f3 c6 3.c4 c5 4.0-0 f6 5.d3 d6 6.h3 h5 7.g5 g4 8.c3 d4 9.hxg4 xf3+ 10. xf3 hxg4 11.g3 d7 12.xf6 gxf6 13.d5  h6 14.c3
0-0-0 15.fd1 c6 16.e3 xe3 17.xe3 dh8 18. f1 f5 19.exf5 d5 20.b3 xf5 21.g3 e4 22.d4 e3 23.e2 exf2 24.f1 e8+ 25.d2 f6 26.c2 g5+ 27.d1 e3 28.h2 fe6 0-1 |
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| Apr-03-12 | | Penguincw: Opening of the Day
Blackburne Gambit
1.e4 e5 2.f3 c6 3.c4 d4
click for larger viewThis opening sure is dangerous. If 5.Nxe5 Qg5 6.Nxf7 Qxg2 and it looks bad for white. 
click for larger viewHowever, not taking the pawn, instead taking the knight, and following the top variation, it comes down to this. Opening Explorer |
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